---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [ncsc-moths] Re: Moth book suggestions To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx What you will learn if you look at Bugguide or MPG as much as I do is the locations of the photographers. For example, if I see a photo by Tom Murray on MPG, I'm reasonably certain that particular moth may be present at my location (he lives in Conn I believe but must have similar vegetation to what I have here in the mountains). Always, click on the photos in bugguide to see where they are taken. You can waste a lot of time if the photos are from someplace like Arizona. As I posted earlier, Covell's Kentucky guide is VERY useful for quickly ascertaining whether a particular species is likely, particular for those of us in western NC and anybody in TN. The Virginia Natural History Museum has re-issued Covell's peterson field guide and you can find it multiple places for around $40. Everyone who is serious about mothing needs to own that book. Merrill On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Lois Stacey <croakie@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I've ordered a copy of Covell, it hasn't come in yet Amazon.com had one for > about $50, the rest were almost $200, you probably will need to look around > or get lucky as it's apparently out of print. > > I run into some of the same problems you do Ken, I'm guessing it comes > from starting out as a birder. I'm looking for the field marks that > differentiate the species and in general where the different species are > located. I've identified a few things only to discover that they are > western species and not found here! > > What I hope to do is use MPG to get close, and then look the species up in > Covell to get the details to hopefully nail it down. I figure that should > work for 90% or more of what I am likely to find here. > > Lois > > > On 3/27/2011 11:55 AM, kjchilds wrote: > >> While MPG, Bugguide and the internet in general are great resources, they >> don't always help when it comes to finding out what it is exactly that makes >> Moth A different from the extremely close looking Moth B. Also, it's not >> always easy to find range information. This morning I was working on a moth >> and I was able to narrow it down to 3 species that looked very similar. I >> found out that 2 of the 3 are strictly western species which made my >> decision on which one to choose much easier. If BAMONA had many more >> contributors, their maps would help but it seems that in general, moths >> don't get no respect so their maps are generally useless. >> >> What book(s) do you suggest that would provide this type of information? >> Ken Childs >> Henderson, TN >> Chester County >> >> http://www.finishflagfarms.com >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Lois Stacey > North Augusta, SC (Aiken Cnty) > www.augustaaikenaudubon.org > http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v299/croakie/Moths/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/48760528@N02/ > > > -- J. Merrill Lynch Echo Valley Farm Watauga County, NC Elevation: 3,400 feet -- J. Merrill Lynch Echo Valley Farm Watauga County, NC Elevation: 3,400 feet