In my recent post about the duskywings, I confessed to having a problem separating Dreamy and Sleepy duskywings from one another. In a follow-up post, Don Holt reminded me that the palps (i.e., the labial palpi-three-segmented structures lying on either side of the proboscis) are considered to extend farther beyond the facial hairs in Dreamy Duskywing than they do in Sleepy Duskywing by Glassberg (in Butterflies through Binoculars East-Opler in both Eastern Butterflies and at the BAMONA site also offers this bit of advice). Recent photos of individuals of this duskywing pair offered by Allan Trently and Jeff Basham cause me to wonder a little about the value of this field mark as a means of identifying Dreamy Duskywing, though it seems it might be useful to i.d. Sleepy Duskywing. You will recall that Allan posted to TN-Butterflies a photo of a Dreamy/Sleepy duskywing taken 30 March 2009 in Perry County. Don and I both looked at this photo and thought at first that the palps were quite protrusive and that the individual might be a Dreamy Duskywing, even though Allan remarked that the photo was taken where food plants (poplar, cottonwood, etc.) typical of Dreamy WERE NOT present and food plants (oaks, etc.) typical for Sleepy WERE present. After giving Allan's photo more scrutiny, Don decided that the appearance of the facial hairs in the photo was misleading and that the individual was indeed a Sleepy Duskywing. I was so taken by the protruding palps in Allan's photo that I forwarded the photo to Rita Venable, asking for her thoughts on the i.d.; she decided the photo did not offer enough info to be sure about the i.d., but she leaned 85% toward calling it Dreamy (and 15% toward calling it Sleepy). This set of responses to the photo of Allan's duskywing makes me somewhat leery about identifying individuals of this pairing based on palps that appear to extend beyond the facial hairs. Jeff Basham recently posted to TN-Butterflies two photos of a duskywing taken in Hamilton County April 1, 2009; Jeff identified the individual as a Sleepy Duskywing; his photos show a duskywing with no visible (or little visible) palps extending beyond the facial hairs. I am inclined to think Jeff's i.d. is correct, but I would be glad of other thoughts on these photos. So, here's where I am now on this issue. Photos showing a duskywing of the Dreamy/Sleepy pairing that has no visible palps beyond the facial hairs can be called Sleepy, but photos showing a duskywing of this pairing that has palps extending beyond the facial hairs are not safe to be definitively called Dreamy and should be viewed as Dreamy/Sleepy duskywings. I plan to get further reviews of Allan's and Jeff's photos to see if this tentative conclusion will hold up. Will be glad to change it if there is a need. Anyone trying to i.d. either of these duskywings needs to get really good views of the facial hairs/palps; really clear close-up photos would be even better. Dreamy and Sleepy duskywings fly only during spring (we think; I have seen at least one individual of what I thought was one of these species in July, so this may not be correct). Neither species is well represented on county butterfly lists at BAMONA, so now is the time to try for photos of one or both species. Steve Stedman Cookeville, Putnam County