[TN-Butterflies] Re: numbering the streaks of the tulip

  • From: Carol Wolf <humble1@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: SStedman@xxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:24:50 -0600

I am going to jump in here and put in my two cents.

I would love to see as many listservs as possible.  Several years ago when I 
began to be serious about birding and photographing, my eyes were opened to the 
many beautiful things of nature.  One by one my interest has developed from 
birds to butterflies, to dragon/damselflies, to insects of all kinds, to moths 
and now to wildflowers.  And I think that most of you have an interest in more 
than just butterflies.  I was thrilled to have TN-butterflies and it has really 
been a great help to me.  I have also really enjoyed all the pictures that you 
post.  Especially things that are rare or unusual.  But who doesn't enjoy a 
beautiful photo of even a very common butterfly.  Sometimes I wish there were 
more photos posted.  While I am wishing-- I would love for you really good 
photographers to share tips on how you get such great photos.  I think there 
are probably many of us who would benefit from that.

Having Tn-moths would make it easier to go back to older posts to find info 
that has been posted and photos of moths.  I think there are several of us who 
would like to see more moths documented for our state.  So anything that could 
be done to inspire and encourage interest in them would be great.  Just like 
anything else, it is a thrill to find a new moth and then be able to identify 
it and have it added for your county.

I have found this list to be extremely helpful and friendly.  I don't think my 
love for butterflies will be diminished if I subscribe to TN-moths.  And I 
would love to see TN-dragonflies!!! and TN-wildflowers!!

I would tell Larry to go for it.  I want to subscribe.

Just my two cents
Carol Wolf
Woodbury, Cannon County

On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Stephen Stedman wrote:

> My commentary from earlier today, let me hasten to say, was not in any way 
> directed at the current effort to develop a Tennessee moth listserv to 
> operate in parallel with the Tennessee butterfly listserv.  I believe it is 
> probably time for a listserv dedicated to Tennessee moths to be initiated, 
> and I plan to become one of the first subscribers to this new listserv when 
> it appears.
> If we have these two related but distinct listservs available, all persons 
> who have really interesting material about leps in general can always send 
> messages to both listservs to be sure that everyone interested gets to see 
> this material.  But for those whose interests are more focused on one group 
> of leps than the other, the option of not having to sort through material 
> that is outside the scope of one’s interest is a good one to make available.  
> There have been some defections from TN-Butterflies already because of the 
> amount of material that this listserv has generated (I think Ken Childs can 
> confirm this); some folks just don’t have time or willingness to process it 
> all and have gone away.  Creating a moth listserv might ease the processing 
> burden enough to keep more folks on one or the other of the two listservs.
> Thanks, Larry McDaniel, for your willingness to create TN-Moths; I look 
> forward to this new listserv and to many years of exciting discoveries of the 
> moth kind in my home county and around the state.
> Steve Stedman
> Cookeville (Putnam County)
> From: tn-butterflies-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tn-butterflies-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Stedman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:13 AM
> To: tn-butterflies@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TN-Butterflies] numbering the streaks on the tulip
> The umbrella that this listserv covers, I would like to think, is a large 
> one, with room for many different subjects relating to butterflies, even, for 
> the past year, room for many different subjects relating to moths.  To 
> suggest that there is a purpose for this listserv that does not provide for 
> all-inclusiveness of subject matter is to open a door to a place where we 
> perhaps do not want to go, so I would respectfully request that those who are 
> in the process of opening that door should reconsider what it is that they 
> are doing and let the door stay shut.
> The recent thread dealing with the morphs of the Common Buckeye and the 
> environmental factors that contribute to the production of individuals of the 
> various morphs was informative, and I am more than a little glad that this 
> thread was begun by Harold Howell and followed up so well by others.  
> However, I imagine among our readers there might be some for whom this 
> information was not of great interest, who, to paraphrase Dr. Johnson, did 
> not find delight in this form of "numbering the streaks on the tulip," but it 
> is a credit to all such individuals that they did not take it upon themselves 
> to voice snippy recriminations about the presence of this thread in the 
> listserv because it did not meet their narrowly focused idea of what the 
> purpose of a listserv should be.
> Let's all take a lesson from Geoffrey Chaucer who recommended to the readers 
> of his Canterbury Tales that, if they didn't like the subject of one of his 
> tales, they should simply turn to another page (i.e., hit the delete button).
> Good butterfly counting, Steve Stedman
> Cookeville (Putnam County)

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