Daniel, I think you likely came to the right conclusion. This time of year male Rusties can be mostly black already (most will still have some rufous flecking though), but they don't have the high gloss effect of male Brewer's, which are getting really shiny by now. Usually Rusty just looks black, or has a slight greenish cast, without the strong greenish-blue and violet of Brewer's. With practice the shape of the bill is different with a decent look, subtle though. Good Birding!! Mike Todd McKenzie, TN birder1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx www.pbase.com/mctodd ________________________________ From: Daniel Estabrooks <hyla514@xxxxxxxxx> To: "thomas_miko@xxxxxxxxxxx" <thomas_miko@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Tennessee Birds <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:19 AM Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Whooping Cranes part II During last February and March, there were several large flocks of Rusties (100+ birds) that would occasionally come and feed on the lawns at MTSU in Murfreesboro. At first I thought there were a few male Brewer's mixed in, but it struck me as odd that I never once saw a single female Brewer's. Eventually I came to the conclusion that what I thought were Brewer's were actually Rusties that had simply worn off their rusty feather tips a little early. Armed with that information, it's my humble opinion that males of the two species can't be reliably distinguished at this time of year. If anyone knows of any other details that will still separate them, please feel free to correct me. Daniel Estabrooks On Monday, February 24, 2014 10:14 PM, Thomas Miko <thomas_miko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Folks, 1. I was told today that there have been no Whooping Cranes at Hiawasee this winter, but a check of eBird shows sightings there as recently as February 8th. One of the entries refers to "Yuchi WMA". I don't know where that is, who to contact, or how to get there. Another entry refers to a ranger having flushed a Whooping Crane into view, and a third entry refers to an unbanded bird (Now, that is exciting!). I hope someone gets me more info. 2. Tonight, at Standifer Marsh, I had 3 obvious Rusty Blackbirds, and some all-black male birds that I assumed were Brewer's Balckbirds, but according to eBird, Brewer's Blackbird is rare in this whole area. The male birds may have been Rusties that I was unable to separate from male Brewer's. Comments on the status and distrubtion of bith species are welcome. All of the blackbirds--including a big flock of Brown-headed Coowbirds showed up very late in the day, and they were quite skittish. The small flock of Common Grackles eschewed their company, preferring the church parking lot. There is also a leucistic Robin that looks like a gigantic Spotted Towhee. Tom Thomas Geza Miko, B.Sc. Radiology, Nuclear Medicine, Radiation & Lab Safety 653 S. Indian Hill Blvd., unit C Claremont, CA 91711 U.S.A. Home: 909.445.1456 Mobile: 909.241.3300