I would even submit it is more than that--that the obligation among birders is stronger, the resources considerable, the need more important, and the interest greater still. Birding follows many other recreational activities and may even be more financially bifurcated or bimodal than most. The occupational, income and educational attainment of competitive birders is unusually high (several standard deviations). There is a reason why birders can travel to Tennessee from 40+ states and several countries or spend their time birding the ABA Area or the world in search for birds. On the other hand, those who get their living from birding related activities, and the institutions that support competitive birding, including the refuges and other natural areas, are at a significantly lower financial level. While some of us work to increase the professionalization of birding, more efforts must be made to professionalize charitable giving in the sport and to encourage competitive birders to give to the activity they love. Donations from those who are fortunate to see rare birds is not just an interesting notion for discusion but an idea that should be acted upon and institutionalized. Kevin Breault Brentwood, TN ________________________________ From: tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Viclcsw@xxxxxxx [Viclcsw@xxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 8:04 AM To: ahofftn@xxxxxxxxx; tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Thank You, Charles Murray! Thank you, Audrey, for expressing what so many people think and feel about the reliable reports and research Charles has contributed. In addition to the assistance he gave to all those interested in viewing the Hooded Crane, many also saw bald eagles, whooping cranes and sandhill cranes for the first time. This record, along with David Aborn's important research regarding festival attendees, offers valuable information for future conservation efforts in this area. In my opiinion, there is no can of worms when it comes to the financial issue. We, meaning every citizen in TN, but especially those of us who spend many hours enjoying wildlife and the outdoors, must make a more substantial, visible and reliable contribution to the conservation of wildlife and wildlife habitat in Tennessee. It is up to us to create innovative ways to accomplish this. Vickie Henderson Knoxville, TN Knox County In a message dated 2/3/2012 4:38:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ahofftn@xxxxxxxxx writes: I just want to publicly thank Charles Murray for his dedication to the Hiwassee Island sightings these past weeks. His reports have been very interesting to read, with the total of visitors and their origins (which are more easily verified than that of the Hooded Crane!), and the time that he has spend, both at the site and in compiling the statistics of the "human visitors", is amazing! His consistant reporting of sightings of the Hooded Crane has helped birders from across the US with their travel plans. The presence of the Hooded Crane (whatever it's final "countability" is determined), and also of the Whooping Cranes, has brought attention to the natural resources of East Tennessee. And Charles has greatly enhanced this with his reports. Hopefully his statistics can be used to highlight the economical impact that birding can have in an area. "Opening-a-can-of-worms-here" Just think, if each birder paid just $5.00 to access Hiwassee...... Thank you, Charles. Audrey Hoff (Yes, I saw The Crane) Knoxville Audrey Hoff I think that I think, therefore I am.......maybe.......