Understood and agreed. It was late at night and I should have thought of this. Roger. Roger Wilson-Hinds Director Screenreader.net CIC 7 The Rookery Orton Wistow Peterborough PE2 6YT Tel 01733 234441 -----Original Message----- From: thunder-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thunder-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Ireland Sent: 25 March 2009 21:56 To: thunder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [thunder] Re: New member introduction. Hi Roger, Unfortunately, file attachments are disabled via the list. May I suggest you send the files privately. The reason we do not allow attachments, is it will leave everyone wide open to virus's etc. All the best -- Andrew -----Original Message----- From: thunder-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thunder-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Wilson-Hinds Sent: 25 March 2009 20:52 To: thunder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [thunder] Re: New member introduction. Hello, All. Let me introduce myself to all - I am Serge Tumanyan a blind developer who likes to develop something. I have several questions on the Thunder screenreader and the list. Good evening Serge and everyone, It looks like I am the guilty party here so here goes with some responses. 1. Is this list alive - I have not seen any postings for several months? Yes, the list is very alive but has been sleeping. 2. Does some one of the members still use Thunder? Yes, over 100,000 people have downloaded Thunder and I am in touch with many from all over the world. 3. Are there anyone who knows where to get the description of the Thunder scripting language? I have wrote to the Ask@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx but with no result. I saw that the scripting is VB based but would like to know more details. I have a couple of files which will enable you and others to take a close look at the VB scripting language and, who knows, come up with some good results. The files are attached. 4. Is there still any internal development of Thunder? Yes and a new version with some bug fixes and a safe off screen model will launch soon from www.screenreader.net. 5. If not may be it would be a good idea to make Thunder an open-source? The Thunder engine is private property but the scripts are already open source and it is the scripts that matter. The Thunder engine is used in commercial software elsewhere. And the last one - does anyone hear me here? Yes, Serge, loud and clear with Thunder. And now for an explanation: I at ask@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx did get your email, Serge, and I tried to reply about five times and it always bounced. Now apparently the server you use was implicated in blacklisting our server run by Granite5 here in the UK. So my emails were disrupted until the matter was sorted and I apologise totally for thinking bad thoughts about you. Not your fault at all. We want you on board and others too. Lastly, I am not a techy person but a real user. The thing just has to work for me. I love listening to music, emailing, blogging, looking up information on the web and writing generally. The technology is just a means to do it all. So I don't bother with lists and techy talk unless I have to. Most of our customers are the same. NVDA is also a free screenreader and it seems pretty good and is admired by techy people. But Thunder just works well with MS Word, the web using WebbIE the text browser and Outlook Express or Windows Mail as well as a growing number of other of other applications. So, please, those of you who love lists and tech talk, come on board and fill the ether. If you want to develop Thunder, great. If you want to help ordinary users get the best out of it and sort their problems, even better. And if you want to script to improve Thunder, that is wonderful. So good wishes, Serge and everyone and I hope the Thunder list now goes from strength to strength. Roger. Roger Wilson-Hinds Director Screenreader.net CIC 7 The Rookery Orton Wistow Peterborough PE2 6YT Tel 01733 234441 -----Original Message----- From: thunder-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thunder-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Serge Tumanyan Sent: 23 March 2009 04:58 To: thunder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [thunder] New member introduction. Hello, All. Let me introduce myself to all - I am Serge Tumanyan a blind developer who likes to develop something. I have several questions on the Thunder screenreader and the list. 1. Is this list alive - I have not seen any postings for several months? 2. Does some one of the members still use Thunder? 3. Are there anyone who knows where to get the description of the Thunder scripting language? I have wrote to the Ask@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx but with no result. I saw that the scripting is VB based but would like to know more details. 4. Is there still any internal development of Thunder? 5. 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