I'm not sure what those devices will do. The act of replacing the address and recalculating checksum itself would not require ACK/windowing on the NAT device itself. However, I certainly have developed quite a few "intermediary" boxes over the years that would perform ACK spoofing to improve performance (i.e. The NAT might to ACK/windowing on behalf of the lan side, allowing the wan client to send more sooner). If that is the case, it would need to support the RFC also if you want to take advantage. If you ask the vendor, it shouldn't take them more than a couple of months for them to tell you how it works! -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley, Brian Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:17 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: attn: slightly OT: Long Fat Network Syndrome hmmmmm, will do. I would hope that the NAT/firewall is simply repacking the TCP segment into IP packets and would care what was inside... mind you, having said that, if you are firewalling on TCP sockets etc, then I guess it does need to open up and rebuild the segment??!! good thinking Tim.. Brian -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Timothy Mangan Sent: 13 May 2004 13:20 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: attn: slightly OT: Long Fat Network Syndrome In theory it should help a little -- but I've never tried it. Before embarking, find out if your NAT/Firewall needs to support it also to take advantage. And let us know what you find out! tim -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley, Brian Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:18 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] attn: slightly OT: Long Fat Network Syndrome I am trying to resolve the age old problem of Terminal services users accessing their home drives/profiles over high latency connections. My client has multiple 40mbps connections and still suffers slow connection problems..classic Long Fat Networks syndrome! I am looking to implement RFC1323 (TCP extensions for High Performance), which basically allows the TCP stack to negotiate a much larger receive window size and thus radically improve their WAN TCP connections? Have any of you networky spods out there have any experience with setting the TCPOpt settings for RFC1323 in a terminal serivces environment? 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