I think the percentage is a little higher, but Gates/Ellison/etc own a "limited partnership" stake in the VC firm. All they can do is buy/sell their own shares, not influence the company. Their shares give them no voting control over the VC firm. adam "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@thinclien To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> t.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: [THIN] Re: Yet another positive Thin study thin-bounce@freel ists.org 11/07/2003 12:22 PM Please respond to thin This is not always what it seems- a lot of times the study is already written and then presented to the sponsors who then choose to fund it. Other times, as with studies we have done, the vendor agrees to fund it regardless of the final result. This is not nearly as suspect, for example, as the fact that 33% of Gartner is now owned by a capital venture fund whose investors include Bill Gates and Larry Ellison !! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:05 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Yet another positive Thin study of course it was positive. It was based on a study commissioned by Citrix and Neoware (next to last paragraph) this is an old Microsoft trick borrowed from the tobacco industry. Greg -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:01 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Yet another positive Thin study http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/58/33825.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Analyst phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? Did you know, in most cases, CPU Utilization IS NOT the single biggest constraint to scaling up?! 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