That really depends somewhat on the manufacturer and how they have built the OS. Typically, the answer is a resounding affirmative and I have not seen any XPE thin clients to date without this ability. And most of the manufacturers will either supply you with a management system (or sell you one) that can handle software distribution to the devices after you create the first modification. It typically is not a problem with actually being able to install applications necessarily to the system but rather it is a problem of system components or files that are not present since the system is stripped down and it is absolutely a function of available free space (make certain that you get more than you think you need - the added price is well worth it). As a for instance, some applications will require serviceA to be installed and the components registered in order to work, but these are not on the system. So, the component must be installed and registered, if needed, first and then the application can be added. Now the nice thing is that the manufacturer should be knowledgeable enough and quick enough to respond so that when you tell them that you need the Cisco VPN client, they will build a custom image for you that will include all of the components necessary and probably your target software. That holds good during implementation, and afterwards they should work with you to provide the components as your network matures and migrates as you may need to add more to it. The only real thing that is avoided with XPE are "office productivity applications," such as Word, Outlook, etc. -- all of which should absolutely not be at the desktop anyway, I have installed literally an incredible range of applications at the local level with no problems at all - everything from 8-bit DOS crap on up. Hope this helps. John ===================================== John A. Vorchak (eMVP) Vorchak Software Custom Windows XP Embedded and Windows NT Embedded Components and Solutions jvorchak@xxxxxxxx ===================================== -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pardee, Michael Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:30 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: XP embedded Thin-Client devices Having used a ton of the WinCE based thin clients I have a question about the XP based ones; can you add software to them? For example, can I add the Cisco VPN client to these things? -----Original Message----- From: John A. Vorchak [mailto:jvorchak@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:31 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: XP embedded Thin-Client devices Dirk, The only folks that I know of other than those on your list is Maxspeed. I am not sure of the model numbers, I would just suggest looking at their website for contacts and such. Good luck with your search and be sure to get evaluation units from everyone and also remember that XPE is a flexible OS, so don't forget that if something isn't there it probably can be added easily... John ===================================== John A. Vorchak (eMVP) Vorchak Software Custom Windows XP Embedded and Windows NT Embedded Components and Solutions jvorchak@xxxxxxxx ===================================== -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dirk Blose Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:01 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] XP embedded Thin-Client devices I don't want to open a discussion of this as I am sure I will be flamed by = the end. I would however like to ask for any models of Thin-Client devices = offering XP embedded as the OS. We are preparing to do an evaluation and I = would like to get a good sampling of those available.=20 I am currently aware of the following models; Wyse 9450XE Wyse 9440XL Wyse 9235LE NetX HPs NetX HPe Neoware EON Professional 6300 Neoware EON Preferred 6000 Neoware Capio 600 Anyone know of any others I should evaluate? Thanks. Dirk Blose, MCSE, CCA Lead Technical Analyst (919) 765-4791 dirk.blose@xxxxxxxxxx *********************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: Jetro Platforms Introducing the first multi-protocol server-based computing solution. 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