Agreed. I have trouble keeping abreast of which version of which Citrix product does what and I implement the damn stuff! How do they expect the decision-makers who don't look at the products on a day to day basis to make sense of it & remember? Before the next release we should start predictions on what they're going to rename next! Steve -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: 26 April 2005 15:13 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Version 4.0 of all Citrix products are launched If I had my way I'd I'd I'd I'd...make those sales people hurt! Talk about the most annoying naming standards in computer history. At least Microsoft has the intelligence to not rename Exchange server every time they release it. Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Senior Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:09 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Version 4.0 of all Citrix products are launched I say we revolt and still refer to the product as MetaFrame... We'll show those Marketing reps who really pushes the product. Joe -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:57 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Version 4.0 of all Citrix products are launched Presentation Server (yes no more metaframe (stupid move IMHO)), Password Manager, and Access Gateway (notice no MSAM) 4.0 have all be launched. Code will be available in 2nd quarter. 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