[THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: Article: Microsoft declares war on Cisco

  • From: Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:13:11 -0400

The VPN Concentrators will go EOS very soon.  They have been replaced by
the ASA appliance, which si FAR superior to the Conecntrators in terms
fo connectivity and throughput.  
 
As a strict SSL VPN connectivity device, it's probably just as good as
the CAG.  However the CAG offers you extras like end point analysis,
which go beyond the strict classification of a device that lets you make
SSL VPN connections.  

Cisco has released new versions of the WAN optimization products as
well.
 
 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:06 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Microsoft declares war on Cisco


What do you mean?  That Netscaler/CAG is not a competitor to Cisco? or
it is?  The Netscaler/CAG competes directly with Cisco's inferor CSS
line and SSL VPN concentrator.

Joe


On 8/31/06, Schneider, Chad M <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        From the Netscaler/CAG area...I would say so....

         

        
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        Hmm..now Citrix is a competitor with Cisco??
        JK


        Microsoft declares war on Cisco 
        From:
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2163150/microsoft-declares-war-cisco
<http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2163150/microsoft-declares-war-cisco>



        Conflict to centre on the 'critical battleground' of the branch
office


        Robert Jaques, vnunet.com <http://www.vnunet.com/>  30 Aug 2006

        Microsoft <http://www.microsoft.com/> 's recent alliance
<http://www.vnunet.com/2162844>  with Citrix Systems
<http://www.citrix.com/>  to develop wide area network (Wan)
optimisation technology represents a declaration of war on Cisco in the
"critical battleground" of the branch office, Gartner
<http://www.gartner.com/>  has reported.

        According to the analyst firm, the Redmond giant's tie-up with
thin client firm Citrix is the culmination of a "long-simmering rivalry"
with Cisco, and has the potential to transform the Wan optimisation
market.

        The comments come after Microsoft and Citrix announced an
expansion of their established partnership that will result in a jointly
developed and marketed Citrix-branded branch office box.

        Gartner said that this product is scheduled to ship in the
second quarter of next year and will be based on Citrix's WANScaler
<http://www.citrix.com/English/PS2/products/product.asp?contentID=33886>
product line gained through its recent acquisition of Orbital Data
<http://www.orbitaldata.com/> , and on Microsoft's Windows Server
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/default.mspx>  and Internet
Security and Acceleration Server
<http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/default.mspx> .

        "Microsoft clearly considers Cisco a significant threat to its
dominance in the enterprise software market, and views the branch office
as a critical battleground for application and network architectures,"
stated a Gartner advisory.

        "Cisco and Microsoft have avoided direct competition until
recently, but the merging of networking, security, storage and
applications made this confrontation inevitable.

        "Microsoft is launching new networking capabilities within Vista
and the 'Longhorn' version of Windows Server, and is pursuing partners
in the voice arena, for example Nortel <http://www.nortel.com/> ." 

        The analyst firm also believes that there will now be much more
conflict between Cisco and Microsoft, a battle it originally predicted
in 1997.

        "Microsoft is building a team of networking vendors to compete
with Cisco. Citrix brings credibility in branch office application
delivery through its Presentation Server and NetScaler products," the
Gartner report stated.

        "By adding Orbital Data, Citrix now has an end-to-end
application delivery family that is broader than Cisco's.

        "With a rapidly expanding portfolio, good strategic partnering
and software-centric channels, Citrix is a serious competitor and
potential roadblock to Cisco's aspirations to control application
delivery.

        "The future WANScaler appliance promises to provide Wan
optimisation, content distribution, security and branch office services.

        "When combined with Microsoft's marketing might and strategic
customer relationships, this product is likely to quickly appear on
prospective customers' shortlists once it is released."

        Gartner believes that Microsoft's tie-up with Citrix will change
the selling dynamic for Wan optimisation controllers, branch office
boxes and, to a lesser degree, application delivery controllers.

        "Because Cisco will not be the default choice, we believe its
influence is likely to weaken. In addition, sales cycles will are likely
to lengthen, and smaller vendors will find selling tougher," Gartner
stated.

        However, the analyst firm went on to predict that the
Microsoft/Citrix partnership will face "some challenges" as the
published product delivery date is "very aggressive".

        Given these concerns it advises firms to continue their existing
business-critical Wan optimisation implementations because its estimates
that the Microsoft/Citrix product is 18 months away.

         

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