[THIN] Re: Speaking of VM...
- From: "Roger Riggins" <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:38:22 -0500
Thanks for all of your responses. It looks like I'll be testing ESX to
see what it can do for me.
Thanks!
Roger Riggins
Network Administrator
Lutheran Services in Iowa
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Selinger, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:59 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Speaking of VM...
From being an ESX 3 beta member I think that you will find that VMWARE
has removed most of the command line requirements and have made pretty
much everything GUI based. The things that you needed to edit via
command line have all been moved into virtual center or managed from
each host.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: June 22, 2006 10:38 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: Speaking of VM...
I found it to be extremely easy! I never touched ESX before and had
VM's up and P2V's (using VMWare P2V) in under 1 hour (not counting the
P2V time itself), after it installed. I didn't need to go to the shell
for any of it (granted I am familiar with Linux systems, but didn't need
to use that knowledge to get running)
I think the most confusing part up the install is partitioning. The
defaults from the ESX 2.5.2 installer are just not good and far from
optimal. I read some posts on VMTN Forums to get the right info. I
hear the ESX 3 installer will have actually optimal partition sizing
defaults based on your total disk space.
There's been some stuff I've had to do in shell because of need to edit
VMX files, or to untar an update and run it, but the install notes make
it really easy to follow to do that. I could see someone using ESX, in
production, and never needing to touch the shell.
Disclaimer: I haven't had to setup a SAN (or NAS in ESX 3) just yet, so
I can't speak for what think can't be done for that in the web
interface.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tom Howarth
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:10 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Speaking of VM...
in a word yes, but it is a fairly steep learning curve. as it has the
look and feel of UNIX. that said you can do the majority of admin tasks
via their web based admin tool. I have have just installed a two node
DL380 dual proc/dual core server attached to a MSA1000. it is currently
hosting six servers at more that adequate speed (ie. no users
complaints;-D) and both nodes are not even breathing heavy never mind
sweating.
In my humble opinion it rocks
On 22/06/06, Roger Riggins <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Does ESX blow away the other VMWare versions in performance? I've
installed VMWare Workstation just to test it and it's slower than
molasses. Of course I don't have any training and haven't wrenched on it
a whole lot, but the VMs truly are slow, especially if I try to get more
than two running. I have it running on newer server hardware. :/
Thanks,
Roger Riggins
Network Administrator
Lutheran Services in Iowa
w: 319.859.3543
c: 319.290.5687
http://www.lsiowa.org <http://www.lsiowa.org/>
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:19 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Which way to go...
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Virtuozzo... VMWare is great, but if
majority of the stuff is W2k3 and/or linux, why virtualize the hardware
when you only need to virtualize the OS.
Joe
On 6/22/06, Selinger, Stephen < SSelinger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I couldn't agree more. It is truly amazing how many server run at 5% all
day every day. If you are refreshing a bunch of servers the ROI on
VMWARE ESX Server is an easy sell. Let me know if you need more
details as I could go on and on...:)
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: June 21, 2006 8:48 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: Which way to go...
I'd go with 2 dual-core processors as well. To be honest, when I think
server, I don't even think single CPU these days, it doesn't even pop
into my head. Dual-core is just a bonus on top of it all.
With that in mind, I have a lot of servers that are largely wasted with
two single-core 2.8-3.2ghz Xeon processors.. But, that's why we are
going into into server consolidation with VMWare, it solves the wasted
hardware problem for most (not all) wasted resources.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:04 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Which way to go...
Assume everything. We're looking at a technology refresh and we tend to
choose one standard model to purchase for the bulk of our servers.
adam
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It really depends on what the role of the server is going to be? I am
assuming a Citrix server?
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Sent: June 21, 2006 3:09 PM
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All,
If you were buying new server, would you go a dual CPU setup or a single
dual-core? Why? I am specing out our new server platform. I've read
all sorts of benchmarks and such, but they all tend to pit a dual core
vs a single CPU. Not quite a fair matchup.
adam
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