[THIN] Re: Secure Gateway status ?

  • From: "Greg Reese" <gareese@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:36:15 +1200

the big difference is that for me, we had a problem come up wth connecting
some users remotely.  we were able to take an extra machine we had, throw
the CSG on there and get them connected.  If the answer had been buying the
CAG, it never would have happened.  It also would have taken too much time
to procure and get installed into our network.

I hope the CSG sticks around for a long time.

On 2/23/06, Jeremy Saunders <jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Jeff is right. They will not phase out for some time as CSG has its place
> with every Presentation Server deployment. What they are trying to do is
> justify CAG over CSG as replacement by showing the dollars involved in
> purchasing and setting them up.
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> CSG
> -Need hardware.
> -Need time to build it.
> -Need to harden the good old Windows OS.
> -Need a certificate
> -Etc, etc, etc
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> CAG
> -Need to configure it.
> -Need a certificate.
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> So they are trying to say that CAG is cost effective.
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> Then of course you can do some really cool stuff with policies, and CAG
> can
> also replace your existing remote VPN solution. So it doesn't just replace
> CSG...it is so much more. It can replace your cludgy Cisco or Checkpoint
> VPN solution and is so much more user friendly for the end users.
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> You can also "partner" the CAGs for redundancy. Doing this with CSG is not
> a technically sound solution
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> And yes...I also believe that CAG will be rolled up into the NetScaler
> hardware down the track. The activation codes will turn on the different
> functions of the NetScaler, with CAG being one of them.
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> It's all very cool stuff, but CSG is an awesome product for its price :)
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> Kind regards,
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> Jeremy Saunders
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> Everyone, do not overreact.
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> let's get serious here for a minute.  CSG has only been truly updated once
> over the past few years.  Do not overreact to this news, CSG is still a
> great FREE product.
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> Jeff
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> On 2/22/06, Greg Reese <gareese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   that sucks.  the CAG is their little appliance device right?  It figures
>   that as soon as I got something running right, it would get tanked.  My
>   next hurdle is smartcards.  Lets hope they leave that one alone.
>
>   Greg
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>   On 2/23/06, Rob Slayden <rslayden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>    Had a Citrix product presentation at work today and the indication was
>    that the new Citrix Access Gateway product is supplanting CSG. I
>    specifically asked if this was a CSG replacement and was told that it
>    was. Sorry Greg!!
>
>    rob
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>    From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>    Behalf Of Greg Reese
>    Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:29 PM
>    To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Subject: [THIN] Re: Secure Gateway status ?
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>    I hope now. I just got it running nice and smooth.
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>    On 2/23/06, M <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>      Can anyone confirm if development of Secure Gateway is to cease ?
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