I can add to the people who think Wyse support is crap... I Spendt 45 days to get a FREE rapport workgroup license key from them, the website did not send me any, and noebody there managed to make me one in 45 days... I tried web support in Europe an USA, i tried the norwegian dealer. Finaly the reseller had to contact the leaders in Wyse Europe.... Then they managed to produce a free license key... Also i can add that i solved a lot of problems when i installed Wyse Rapport SP3 (at that time SP1 was official...) Now we dont pay for wyse boxes until everything works. Mvh Svein Arild -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Rick Fogarty [mailto:rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sendt: 2. desember 2003 19:46 Til: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Emne: [THIN] Re: Rapport Issues (Re: Holy Cow Batman - Altiris acquires Wise) Good Luck! I've been dealing with them about many problems - some are just stupid - obviously not well thought out. I've been in contact with the techsupport for more then two years on a hardware issue and have yet to resolve the issue.... Strange birds they are.... -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike MacDonald Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:17 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Rapport Issues (Re: Holy Cow Batman - Altiris acquires Wise) Funny you should mention Rapport. I have been wrestling with it for weeks now. We just got it a couple weeks ago and still can't get it working right. The main issue has been that we couldn't get or apply images accross our switches. They tried to blame our network, but through a lot of research I found that the problem was that their software wasn't RFC compliant. Once I proved it they were quick to fix it. We use Nortel switches and it turns out the only thing they test on is Cisco. They didn't find the problem because apparently Cisco's DHCP relaying functionality is also non-RFC compliant and allow packets to pass through the switch that should be dropped according to the RFC specifications. Now that we can image, we have yet another problem related to the devices after an image is applied and who knows how long that will take to fix. The part that really torques me off is I have spent most of my time over the past few weeks tracking down a bug in their software, at my clients expense, after they tried to blame our network gear and our configuration. As someone who used to work in sales I would think that putting a customer through the kind of trouble they put me through would warrant an apology, or a thank you, or at least some assistance with the other issues we are having with their software. I wanted to mention this on the list because when I was looking into this issue I couldn't find anything on the web to help resolve it. This way, it will show up on thethin.net and if someone else runs into a similair issue they will see they are not alone and could also contact me if they want more information. If anyone does have questions about this issue or wants to know specifics let me know. -Mike MacDonald, MCSE, CCA mike.macdonald_no_spam_@xxxxxxxx (remove the _no_spam_) -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fogarty [mailto:rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:46 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Holy Cow Batman - Altiris acquires Wise! Oh yeah... I know who they are. I use their product to push out all of my SMS installs. As a user of Wyse terminals, I was hoping to get rid of that piece of #*&#* Rapport! :-(