We have seen exactly the same occurrences on our IMA Server. A reboot = does not refresh the list.=20 Have found the behaviour strange, but like everything else with = Microsoft (and maybe Citrix?) all seems to be held together by a piece of string (registry!!!), my attitude is to ignore it as long as all users can get = to their appropriate printers and fix the issue when it becomes a problem. Sorry to sound so cynical, but have had 5 years of it. Shyam Sippy =20 -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of Ron Oglesby Sent: 28 March 2003 18:00 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Printer driver replication Sometimes that is what it takes. That is one of the reasons they put the Refresh option in there. The Print driver thing is pretty intensive if you can believe it. Lets say you have 200 or 300 print drivers on a server when you install it. IT takes for ever for the MFPRINTSS.DLL to load as an IMA service. This is because it is updating the DB with all the drivers and looking for and adding any entries to the wtsprnt.inf. Anyway This type of stuff makes it a bad idea for them to continually update the DB with the driver list since it takes a lot of time with large number of drivers to sort through the reg and look for new ones. SO, generally not a big deal but I bet IMA re-start updates it. As an FYI we have a set of servers with like 800 supported drivers and a 400 line mapping file. The install hangs that MFprintss.dll for like 30 or 40 minutes. If you ghost the box and the target machines are inserted into the farm the first IMA service start takes like 10 minutes to insert everything and all that. Replication is good. BUT their queue is really limited for large farms so be very careful with it. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =3D20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 312.961.2380 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Stratton, Doug MSER:EX = [mailto:Doug.M.Stratton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:49 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Printer driver replication Refreshes have no effect. We have not tried to restart the ima service. Seems a little drastic to get some printers to show up. Our servers will reboot on the weekend I will see if they show up then. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Fri, March 28, 03 9:27 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Printer driver replication Even if you refresh the Printer and Driver info for that server in the CMC, or re-start the IMA service? Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =3D3D20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 312.961.2380 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Stratton, Doug MSER:EX =3D [mailto:Doug.M.Stratton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:18 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Printer driver replication It does not show up in the CMC. It does so up on the servers Printer driver list (Start, Settings, Printers.....) And is usable on the server but does not show up in CMC as being installed on that specific server (s). -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: Fri, March 28, 03 9:04 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Printer driver replication So are you saying the Driver doesn't show up in the CMC on the target servers or in the Drivers list in the Printer's folder server properties? Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =3D3D3D20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 312.961.2380 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Stratton, Doug MSER:EX =3D3D [mailto:Doug.M.Stratton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:59 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Printer driver replication Here is the problem: Select driver in CMC and replicate from a server to all the rest. Says it sent it. Check eventlogs on receiving servers and they have installed. No sign of this in CMC. Still says the driver is only installed on originating server. Example driver: HP business Inkjet 2600 PCL 5c or PS. 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