Thanks Rick and Steve. Your responses are great...as usual, and advice I can trust :) Cheers, Jeremy. "Rick Mack" <Rick.Mack@volant e.com.au> To Sent by: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin-bounce@freel cc ists.org Subject [THIN] Re: PS4 on Unix experiences 23/03/2006 04:50 PM Please respond to thin Hi Jeremy, Did a sizeable pilot with one of the telcos using Citrix on Solaris. Despite having huge bandwidth available X11 is is so chatty that it's hugely vulnerable to latency. I guess I meant to say slow, but I like X11, it's a brilliant LAN protocol that blows ICA out of the water when you're doing text manipulation or vector graphics, but on a WAN it's a different story. The performance of the ICA client across their WAN was blindingly fast compared to X11. One additional benefit was no requirement for an X11 client on Windows client machines, just the standard SOE ICA client. PS4 enterprise includes Citrix on unix and the unix connections share licenses with your windows servers. So if you've got PS4 for unix you can fully integrate the unix published apps into your standard environment (WI etc) at NO extra licensing cost. Any organization with X11 unix-based applications that is running Citrix on Windows as well would be crazy not to use the unix product. The proviso of course is it only runs on HP/UX, AIX and Solaris (SPARC) but there's nothing stopping you using a baby Solaris or AIX system as a front end to linux or other *nix systems. PS4 on unix is if anything easier to set up than the Windows version. As always, RTFM helps but you certainly don't have to be a unix guru. There is of course a linux version of the Citrix product as well but it's been sitting on the shelf. With the advent of the "free" unix product bundled with PS4 enterprise, ther's no reason whatsoever (except maybe Citrix' relationship with Microsoft) that PS4 for linux couldn't be released. That'd be really interesting because stuff like Open Office etc just runs that much better on unix. And we musn't forget that unix has been multi-user for a long time, with very few of the more common issues encountered on Windows systems. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Jeremy Saunders Sent: Thu 23/03/2006 17:42 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] PS4 on Unix experiences Hi List, A question of naivety really... I'm interested to know how well developed Citrix on Unix is, and whether of not the user experience would be better served by delivering an X Windows Emulator from PS4 running on Windows 2003 to access the application running on an AIX server. Also, can anyone recommend a good X Windows Emulator. Cheers. Kind regards, Jeremy Saunders Senior Technical Specialist Integrated Technology Services & Cerulean IBM Australia Level 2, 1060 Hay Street West Perth WA 6005 Visit us at http://www.ibm.com/services/au/its P: +61 8 9261 8412 F: +61 8 9261 8486 M: TBA E-mail: jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************ ##################################################################################### This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received it in error please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this e-mail and any attachments. All liability for direct and indirect loss arising from this e-mail and any attachments is hereby disclaimed to the extent permitted by law. ##################################################################################### (See attached file: winmail.dat)