[THIN] Re: Outllook 97 / Metaframe 1.8
- From: "Lucas Boyken" <lboyken@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:32:32 -0500
Mike,
If you do a study, I'm not going to say this is absolute, however, you
may find that only a small percentage of your user base at said client
will have any one of the apps open at any given time. Outlook, that
will be tough...most everyone has that open ALL the time. However,
Word, Excel, Access, Publisher...this programs are most likely not up
and in use 24x7 by each user. The metering package I mentioned is like
a library. You check in and out licenses for said programs. You can
setup VIP users that allow these important users to "steal" a license
from a less important user. Also, it is great for reporting purposes.
If it doesn't work for this particular client, you may find an
application for it down the road. As a consultant myself, I struggle on
a daily basis to ensure that my clients are compliant with licensing.
This metering software is a great tool in my arsenal. If you have a
chance, check it out.
Lucas W. Boyken
Computer Systems Associates
Account Manager / Technical Representative
lboyken@xxxxxxxxx
Company Phone: 800.222.7601
Office Phone: 515.332.2751
Fax: 515.332.5687
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Batters [mailto:mike.batters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:01 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outllook 97 / Metaframe 1.8
Lucas,
Unfortunately our client uses Word, Excel & Outlook for all users all
the time.
Regards,
Mike Batters
Technical Consultant
Netprotocol Limited.
email : mike.batters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
web : www.netprotocol.net
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Lucas Boyken
Sent: 04 June 2003 17:13
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outllook 97 / Metaframe 1.8
Mike,
Have you considered Metering software to get around your licensing
issue. We have implemented at some customer sites Express Metrix
metering software. It allows us to check out "licenses" of office apps.
So, instead of buying 50 copies of Office XP Professional edition, our
client purchased 3 XP Office Pros and 15 XP Office SBE. This, in turn,
might have even been overkill. Express Metrix gives you the ability to
see how many users are using the software concurrently, peak usage and a
bunch of other stats. It also gives you ability to limit how many users
can use an app at one time, thus staying legal with licensing.
Implementing Express Metrix saved our client about $35,000 in software
costs. You might want to check it out.
Lucas W. Boyken
Computer Systems Associates
Account Manager / Technical Representative
lboyken@xxxxxxxxx
Company Phone: 800.222.7601
Office Phone: 515.332.2751
Fax: 515.332.5687
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Batters [mailto:mike.batters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:44 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outllook 97 / Metaframe 1.8
Rob,
If it were my choice then this client would run Office 2000/XP but as
with many organisations there are financial restrictions and 200 copies
of office is not cheap.
We have many sites that run Office 97 and the majority run fine. I
accept that there are some problems with it but this particular one is a
new one on me.
Regards,
Mike Batters
Technical Consultant
Netprotocol Limited.
email : mike.batters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
web : www.netprotocol.net
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Rob Beekmans
Sent: 04 June 2003 14:37
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outllook 97 / Metaframe 1.8
Mike,
I thought noone would be running Outlook97 anymore, years ago the
released Outlook98 which was a better alternative to the buggy 97
version. Outlook 97 doesn't run fine on Citrix, It gave many errors ans
sh*t.
Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
=3D3D20
Rob Beekmans
Technical Consultant
A-Tree Automatisering
=3D3D20
Business Phone: +31 24 6452000
Business Fax: +31 24 6450463
Business website: http://www.a-tree.nl
Business E-mail: R.Beekmans@xxxxxxxxx
=3D3D20
Private E-mail: RobBeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Private website: http://joulupukki.nl
=3D3D20
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Mike Batters [mailto:mike.batters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
Verzonden: woensdag 4 juni 2003 15:14
Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: [THIN] Outllook 97 / Metaframe 1.8
Hi All,
I have a puzzling problem that I hope someone can help with.
I have a site with users running Outlook 97 on a W2K SP2/Metaframe 1.8
server. All users can run Outlook no problems except when they minimise
it. After about 5 - 7 minutes of being minimised it disappears - gone.
Process appears to have died off too.
Any ideas anyone??????????
Many Thanks in Advance,
Mike
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