It's all about marketing. Netscreen claims that you can get better performance on their boxes because it's all ASIC based processing. They also claim that their firewall cannot be broken into because there is no OS (which is a wrong statement). Hate to tell ya, but their wrong. I have seen better performance on the PIX 515e, 535, Astaro running on a PIII 900Mhz, and even the newer X series from Watchguard (which has an Intel CPU). I've never been a fan of Netscreen. The only product they have that's decent is their IDP solution. VERY expensive. Chris -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pardee, Michael P. Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:12 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Opinion We run Raptor, PIX, and NetScreen. PIX is rock solid, but everyone really seems to be liking the NetScreen lately. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryan Lambert Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:12 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Opinion I'd put Netscreen on the top of my list. I like Checkpoint as well, but it can be a bit pricey. Pixnose Firewall, well... :p -----Original Message----- From: Roger Riggins [mailto:roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:46 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Opinion I'm with Evan on the PIX. You just can't beat the reliability.=3D20 I have a lot of Sonicwalls out there, too. I've had a slew of software and hardware problems with them, but the GUI makes it easy to configure. Roger -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Mann Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:36 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Opinion I've used Cisco PIX's and Watchguard Firebox series extensively. The PIX is a better device IMO, but the Watchguard gives you some added features, such as the ability to have a webblocker, built in logging (no need to dump to syslog), an easier to use GUI (when compared to PDM on the PIX). There's a few other things you can license to make the Watchguard more of an all-in-one as opposed to a firewall only like the PIX's are. I havn't used the new Firebox X series, but used the II/III and under heavy load, I've had both models lock up on me, requiring hard reboot. I'm more of a CLI guy, and the Watchguard's have no CLI, so keep that in mind if you are a CLI type of guy. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Beckett Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:19 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Opinion Just want to get the illustrious list's opinion on firewalls out there. We currently run a Netware product and are looking to replace it. Opinions on firewalls? Either hardware or running on a server.=3D3D20 ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. Emergent OnLine is the leading server-based computing consulting integration firm in the nation. Emergent OnLine delivers expert consulting services you can depend on. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. Emergent OnLine is the leading server-based computing consulting integration firm in the nation. Emergent OnLine delivers expert=3D20 consulting services you can depend on. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm Notice of Confidentiality: This e-mail and any attachments may contain privileged and/or =3D confidential information. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of =3D the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the = =3D intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any =3D copying, distribution, dissemination or action taken in relation to the =3D contents of this e-mail and any of its attachments is strictly =3D prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in =3D error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the = =3D original e-mail and destroy any copies or printouts of this e-mail as = =3D well as any attachments. Please note Lutheran Services in Iowa does not =3D endorse any opinions, conclusions or other information contained within =3D this message that does not pertain to official business. ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. Emergent OnLine is the leading server-based computing consulting integration firm in the nation. Emergent OnLine delivers expert=20 consulting services you can depend on. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. Emergent OnLine is the leading server-based computing consulting integration firm in the nation. Emergent OnLine delivers expert consulting services you can depend on. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm Email Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this transmission is confidential, proprietary or privileged and may be subject to protection under the law, including the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). The message is intended for the sole use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, distribution or copying of the message is strictly prohibited and may subject you to criminal or civil penalties. If you received this transmission in error, please contact the sender immediately by replying to this email and delete the material from any computer. ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. Emergent OnLine is the leading server-based computing consulting integration firm in the nation. Emergent OnLine delivers expert consulting services you can depend on. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. Emergent OnLine is the leading server-based computing consulting integration firm in the nation. Emergent OnLine delivers expert consulting services you can depend on. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm