[THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI

  • From: "Andrew Wood" <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 17:18:37 -0000

So its only when they are logging on through WI that the logon scripts don't
run; the logon scripts do run if they access an ica session directly?

Sorry - but that's not clear from the earlier post. 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: 03 February 2006 17:11
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI

Checkbox for run scripts is checked -  hence logon scripts running when
accessing server directly ......

Regards,

Alan.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Matt Kosht
Sent: 03 February 2006 15:41
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI

in the Novell client properties, Location Profiles, edit the default
profile. In the profile is a tab called Script.  There is a checkbox for
'run scripts'

On 2/3/06, Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> wasn't this something in Novell where you could disable the novell
logon
> scripting from running?
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
> Sent: 03 February 2006 11:25
>
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
>
> Reposting - 'cos I'm still getting nowhere with this .......
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
> Sent: 31 January 2006 17:01
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
>
> Update - have installed 4.91 SP2 (4.91.2.20051209), disabled NMAS and 
> enabled LDAP and the contextless pasthrough authentication works a
dream
> (and I'll swear faster than the way I used to do it). The only caveat
is
> that the Novell logon scripts now don't run and as such users don't
get
> their mapped drives and making things like Word and Excel unusable.
Any
> other minor tweak I can make?
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan.
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
> Sent: 31 January 2006 12:29
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
>
> Rick,
> Thanks for that - not using NMAS authentication so that bit's easy.
Will
> have a look at LDAP. This looks like it's part of CLAW (thanks for the
link
> Andrew), which for some reason I discounted yesterday ......
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan.
>
> P.S. Will let you know how I get on ......
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: Rick Mack [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick
Mack
> Sent: 31 January 2006 10:16
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> What I actually meant to say is if you want contextless passthrough 
> authentication to work through WI etc, disable NMAS authentication and
use
> ldap.
>
> Sorry.
>
> regards,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Ulrich Mack
> Volante Systems
>  ________________________________
>  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Rick Mack
> Sent: Tue 31/01/2006 20:11
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> The main trick to getting contextless login to work is to disable NMAS 
> Authentication. Define your ldap servers and away you go ;-).
>
> regards,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Ulrich Mack
> Volante Systems
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Hutchinson, Alan
> Sent: Tue 31/01/2006 20:04
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
>
>
> Well - I was a bit surprised when I went and checked - I know that we 
> had severe problems late last year on our W2K farm. So bad in fact
that
> we got a 'pre-release' patch from Novell and have since discovered
that
> others have had the same problem. This patch was eventually released 
> into 'the wild' (and I think went into SP2) and the servers have been 
> very stable since but the client doesn't show any updates. I think I'm 
> going to upgrade to SP2 on this new build but don't believe that it
will
> resolve my issue below.
>
> I've found several references to the 'tab event' to kick off the
actual
> contextless 'lookup' but no actual solutions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Rick Mack
> Sent: 30 January 2006 20:36
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
> Hi,
>
> 4.91 lower than SP1 can bluescreen a server. That and other features 
> make 4.91 SP2 just about mandatory.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rikc
>
> Ulrich Mack
> Volante Systems
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2006 3:08 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
> 4.91 (.0.20050216 - for completeness) which is the sam client as I've 
> got on my W2K farm which I know has been patched last year but can't 
> find details of patch.........
>
>   _____
>
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Wood
> Sent: 30 January 2006 16:50
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
> whats the version of the Novell client that you're running?
>
>   _____
>
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan
> Sent: 30 January 2006 16:43
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Novell Contextless Logon and WI
>
>
> I have a new pilot starting soon incorporating WI 4.2, CAG and AAC.
> Servers are W2K3, PS4 and set up with Novell client for contextless 
> login. This part works fine when connecting directly to a server to a 
> published desktop - user enters credentials and contextless lookup
takes
> place and user is then logged in. Have been doing this for some years 
> now with W2K, MF1.8, and MF XP etc.
>
> Problem arises when user accesses applications (or desktops) via WI.
> User logs in and page is populated with available applications. This 
> tells me that authentication is taking place against the NT domain
where
> the user account exists and the correct applications are showing 
> (applcations published based on NT group membership). On selecting an 
> application a netware security message pops up saying that user can't 
> logon to the network. On o.k.ing this user is then presented with the 
> Novell logon box with username and password already populated but I
can
> tell that the 'contextless part' hasn't taken place as the id is still 
> in lowecase (selecting adavnced also shows that context is not
correct).
> Deleting the username and retyping it and then 'tabbing' to the next 
> field 'allows' the contextless lookup to take place and user can then 
> logon accordingly.
>
> Not sure if I've explained that very well and can supply further
details
> if required. Anyone any pointers please.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan.
>
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