The best option is using a full deployment mechanism such as Altiris Deployment Services. You'll be able to completely package applications deploy scripted builds, image servers etc.... from one console. Its also a whole lot cheaper and better than buying enterprise edition metaframe just for IMS. Joe is right here about the OS side of things. I'm a fan of imaging terminal servers to a point, but scripting is by far the most flexible. Tony Lyne Consultant Senior Systems Engineer +64 6 353 7300 <http://www.gen-i.co.nz> +64 6 356 6800 +64 27 472 0696 tony.lyne@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tony.lyne@xxxxxxxxxxx> www.gen-i.co.nz <http://www.gen-i.co.nz> 172-174 Broadway Avenue, PO Box 1470, Palmerston North, New Zealand "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Friday, 16 June 2006 7:15 a.m. To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Installation Manager vs. Cloning With IM, you still have to drop an OS with Citrix on the server. Also note, with IM there is no gaurantee that applications will be installed in the order you'd like them to be. From personal experience, no one really uses IM. Sure there are a few, but there are better solutions out there. Imaging is OK but there is still some clean up work that has to be performed. Scripting is the way to go. Sure, it's bit of work to setup but when your done you'll have flexibility to the nth degree. Joe On 6/15/06, Chad King <caking76@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Some things I've come up with.. Pro's and Con's For using Installation Manager Pro - Easy to upgrade apps (No need to update and recapture the image) Pro - Easy and Clean uninstallation of apps (either before an upgrade or for troubleshooting) Pro - Easy to manage application deployment for custom builds Pro - No need to reimage all machines for major upgrades (Apps that don't uninstall cleanly) Con - Currently using imaging (There has been a lot of time invested into this process already) Con - Takes longer to build a complete server Con - Every server is gaurenteed to be the same after imaging If anyone can throw some more Pro's and Con's to me I would really appreciate. I'm convinced that Installation Manager is better, cleaner, and easier in the long run but I have done both in the past and can't say one's hands down better than the other. I'm looking for realistic pros and cons not Installation Manager is best practice (if you say that tell me why it's best practice..) Thanks! Chad