[THIN] Re: I hate MSAM w/CSG rant
- From: Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:05:45 -0700
I'm running W2K3. Application pool is whatever MSAM wants. I notice that
it creates its own.
Can't see itself refers to port 80 connections. I can ping to my hearts
content, but I use Internet Explorer to browse to either localhost or the
servername, it fails. I've also tried to connect to 443. I don't see any
other ports listed in IIS orany of the MSAM/CSG config utilities.
adam
"Chris Lynch"
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thin
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Well, that could be a start.
Keep in mind that the MSAM components are DCOM applications, as well
as ASP.NET 1.0 and J# (J# for some CDA's, and WI 3.0<).
Also, what OS are you running? If it's Windows Server 2003, what
Application Pool are you using? Custom? What are the settings?
Also, you said "it can't see itself". What do you mean? You can't
ping it by it's machine name? You can't use a web browser to connect
back to itself? What happens when you ping LOCALHOST or 127.0.0.1?
Chris
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> Hi Chris,
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> "It trashes my servers.." refers to my default websites no
> longer working.
> It's doing something to my IIS that if I type in
> "http://server";, the default website no longer comes up. In
> this case "server" is the local machine. It can't see
> itself. Removing CSG does not fix it. Removing IIS and
> reinstalling does not work either. Other things start to fail too.
> For example, on one client I can get to MSAM, can't from
> others. If I wait an hour, no clients can get to MSAM...It's
> like my servers get progressively sicker.
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> I am using not mixing services, all the servers are clean. I
> am down to litterally following the examples in the product
> documentation. I'm getting ready to burn a support call to
> Citrix and have them walk me
> through a complete install. We generally have a more
> secure environment
> than most places. Our security team believes the NSA lock
> down guide doesn't go far enough. I'm betting that there
> must be some dependancy that the documentation doesn't
> mention because Citrix thinks its too commonplace.
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> Adam,
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> The only issues I have EVER run into with installed SG/Logon
> Agent with MSAM is the fact I installed SP1 on my MSAM
> servers, but didn't install SP1 on my SG/Logon Agent server
> (the authentication request/test was failing during the
> service configuration).
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> What do you mean by "it trashes my servers so bad..."? Are
> you installing SG/Logon Agent on a server with other web services?
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> Sorry if you have already posted/sent an email with these
> details already.
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> Chris
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> > Start of rant ----
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> > I wish I could say this was a good product, but I can't. I
> can't even
> > get the thing installed!!!! I get the MSAM going, but when I go to
> > setup the CSG, it goes downhill. Anyone ever read the
> docs? Why does
> > one doc point to another, which then points back to the original?
> > I've even gone so far as to use the examples in the docs.
> No dice.
> > Systems can't seem to see each other. Dave Mishchenko
> pointed me to a
> > tech article on Citrix's website that literally says the
> following in
> > the "Cause" section: "For some reason..." Sounds like a lot of
> > troubleshooting went into that one.
> > Anyway, once I start messing with CSG, it messes up my MSAM.
> > Don't know why. Maybe it has something to do with
> certificates. It
> > trashes my servers so bad that I can't even bring up the
> default web
> > page of the default web sites, even when the website/server is the
> > local machine.
> > ARGH!!!
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> > -- End of rant
> >
> > Has anyone successfully installed the latest versions of
> MSAM and CSG
> > from scratch? All the docs seem to assume that you have an older
> > version and want to upgrade. I've followed all the onscreen
> > instructions and the instructions from the MSAM
> > 2.2 supplemental guide. It basically assumes the same
> thing and has
> > you install the older versions, configure them, and then
> upgrade. Not
> > very elegant.
> >
> > adam
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> >
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