Rick, I see what you are saying....but one app I support is a dos based UNIX emulator app which will require scrolling at times... just doing a dir of a large directory will cause the problem.... If I do it local it will take 3-5 seconds to scroll the 60K text file If I do it on MPS 3.0 server it can take anywhere from 10 seconds to a minute or more because it pegs the CPU on the LOCAL PC which causes PC and Citirx performance to stink. If I do the same operation from a XP server....it is faster and doesn't peg the CPU.....In other words they changed something in 3.0 that makes it worse....unacceptable in my judgment. Before I open an incident with them...I wanted to see if others see the issue and for you veteran Citirx experts out there....if you think Citirx would even care to improve it....I don't want to waste my boss's $400 on something Citrix wouldn't fix anyway. Thanks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Rick Mack [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 8:44 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [THIN] High CPU at the end client when using published apps from MPS 3.0 Hi Mike, I guess you mean just listing the file in a command window, that's actually pretty cpu intensive because the "DOS" window has no smart font handling capabilities. It doesn't use windows APIs or anything, just displays bitmaps. Try something simple. On your local machine: c: cd \ dir /s > dirs.txt (now start the task manager) type dirs.txt (watch the CPU utilization go to 100% while the text is scrolling in the DOS window) And that's local. The ICA client is limited in what it can do about handling a scrolling bitmap so the end result is the same. Since the video virtual channel is basically running at a higher prioroty than anything else, keyboard and mouse input is backgrounded (ie doesn't respond in a timely fashion) while the bitmap scrolling is going on. Just get your users to use a text editor. While notepad is pretty darn stupid (especially when doing a global search and replace on a large file), there are freeware editors around like "TheGun (Grown Up Notepad)" which do a pretty good job. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Pedigo Michael-G17060 Sent: Wed 8/09/2004 5:34 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] High CPU at the end client when using published apps from MPS 3.0 Hi, Has anybody else seen this??? When running a simple command window and cat the file (60K text file).....CPU on the client will max out at 100% All MPS 3.0 servers does this (3).... If a user is running multiple applications they start freezing and general performance stinks..... Can anybody else reproduce this? I can run the same apps and cat the same file on my Metaframe XP farm and I can see CPU shoot up, but it appears it is correctly managed and never consumes 100% and it runs much faster on 550MHz processors vs 3.0GHz Any advice or at least acknowledgement others can or can't see this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike ##################################################################################### This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this email has been sent to you in error. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this email is prohibited. If you have received it in error please notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. All liability for direct and indirect loss arising from this email and any attachments is hereby disclaimed to the extent permitted by law. ##################################################################################### ##################################################################################### This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this email has been sent to you in error. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this email is prohibited. If you have received it in error please notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. All liability for direct and indirect loss arising from this email and any attachments is hereby disclaimed to the extent permitted by law. #####################################################################################