Hi Adam, My response to Mark yesterday about the his GINA question was one of those, "did I send that?" answers, where I missed the point of the question. GinaDLL defines the primary GINA (Graphical Identification and Authentication) that handles logins. ctxGinaDLL defines the next GINA chained by the Citrix GINA. If you've got the Notes client installed, with single notes logon, then the msgina.dll entry gets replaced by ngina.dll. However ngina.dll still chains to msgina.dll so what you've got is fine. If the ctxGinaDLL entry is changed back to msgina.dll, then the Notes single logon feature will be disabled. I believe the ngina.dll isn't used anymore with Notes client version 5.0.12 and later. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu 30/12/2004 3:01 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files I notice that I have two gina entries in the registry: GinaDLL = ctxgina.dll ctxGinaDLL = ngina.dll I am guessing that these are chained gina files. I think ngina.dll comes from Lotus Notes when you use the single sign-on service. Not sure though. adam |---------+------------------------------------> | | "Hutchinson, Alan" | | | <Alan.Hutchinson@southamp| | | ton.gov.uk> | | | Sent by: | | | thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx| | | | | | | | | 12/29/2004 08:01 AM | | | Please respond to thin | | | | |---------+------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | | cc: | | Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| I agree - it is not something I would change just for the sake of it. One sort of assumes that Citrix has got this right and as such may make some assumptions about being first in the list. To follow on from Steve's point - yes, it has worked perfectly (but test, test, and test again). That said it looks like I'm going to have to change the order on my main farm in a few weeks time !!! . Regards, Alan. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: 29 December 2004 14:43 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files Ginadll I have hacked this too to work with multiple authtentication systems simulatneoulsy and it worked perfectly. As a general rule I would stick with CTX first, but it doesn't hurt to change the order or try other variations, sometimes it is the difference between being able to do certain things or not... Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hutchinson, Alan Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:39 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files Just to "muddy" the waters a little - I have in the past changed the order in which the Gina's are processed (Novell (contextless)/nFuse/getAccess environment) such that a "pass-through" type authentication takes place. I assume this only works because we're not using any of the so-called "advanced features". Regards, Alan. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: 29 December 2004 14:22 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files Another thing to consider is that you can string the GINA's so that they pass unsupported calls onto the next one. In light of this you probably want the Citrix one first and then either MS or Novell next and then application specific ones last.... Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:52 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files Brian has some info on his website about it. It seems you can use the Microsoft GINA but you lose some features. http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=236 Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:38 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files Metaframe requires their GINA for certain functions/features. Having said that though I have seen it work with other third party gina files that get substituted upon installation. You can simply change it and see what happens, if you can't get back in you can do a remote registry edit to set it back. If you have no reason to change it, leave it alone, Citrix has perfected this subsystem and it is very reliable... Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:15 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Gina files HI All, I noticed that under HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WIndowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon, the gina being used it ctxgina.dll and ngina.dll (possible my Lotus notes single signon). Is there any harm in forcing the system to use msgina.dll? (Other than disabling my Notes single signon). adam ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor SeamlessPlanet.com Domain Names Register your .com domain name for as low as $7.85 One of the lowest prices on the web! 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