[THIN] Re: Discussion: Microsoft to release patches oncepermonth
- From: "Matt Kosht" <matt.kosht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:32:27 -0500
While I won't begrudge that an XP workstation is certainly easier to
setup/deploy in a corporate setting. BSD/Linux certainly do work in that
capacity today. I use FreeBSD v4.9 everyday (and yes I use XP too) at
home and at the office. In the Citrix world you can run a Windows app
just as easily on an Open Source *NIX PC as a Windows PC. You get much
better stability and security out of the box with BSD than XP. I am not
a zealot like some in this arena. There are options and every now and
again people entrenched in MS platform need to look at what's out there.
If only to keep MS honest and competitive.
>>> joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/9/2003 3:26:54 PM >>>
SP1a cuts the number of patches by 20 or so, there is still another
20-25 to
go. Funny you mention SP1a, it exists only because of a BS move to
remove
Java from Windows XP as Microsoft can't play nice with Sun. Nice.
I'm simply saying that MS could/can do a better job. They can also
roll-up
the security patches more often. You'd think we'd have IE SP2 by now.
Anyways, FreeBSD and Linux are nice but not Corporate Desktop ready.
So no,
people don't have a choice yet. Granted, it's getting close. But no
ciga
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Matt Kosht
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:48 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Discussion: Microsoft to release patches onceper
month
Microsoft has released SP1a for XP. This includes a lot of the
security
patches you would have to download individually via Windows update. It
is however a 134MB download.
http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/pro/downloads/servicepacks/sp1/default.as
p
For differences between SP1 and SP1a
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813926
I am not at all keen on MS rushing untested or superficially tested
service packs as the cure can be worse than the ill.
p.s. Remember there is a choice on the desktop. You don't have to run
MS
at all. Check out FreeBSD or a Linux distribution like Redhat.
>>> joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/09/03 12:05 PM >>>
Microsoft security initiative is a Joke. As long as they treat it as
a
public relations issue it will never get fixed.
Fwiw: I installed Win XP on another machine yesterday, after the base
install it's Windows Update time. 45 "critical patches" let along the
25 in
the "recommended" section. It takes longer to patch the OS now than
it
does
to install and configure it. Also, what happened to the whole Roll up
patch
between Service Packs? Instead of 45 individual it would be nice to
only
need to download and deploy one file. Keep the individual patches
for
those who need them. I'd also say that MS is waiting too long between
Service Packs.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig http://thethin.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:19 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Discussion: Microsoft to release patches once per
month
Hi All,
A colleague of mine went to a briefing at a local training center
about
using SUS server to deploy patches. I had told him about how
Microsoft
will
be releasing bulletins and patches monthly and he brought it up to
them.
They knew nothing about it and the Microsoft rep that was there knew
nothing
about it also!
So I thought to myself...who does know about it? Just to be certain
that I
wasn't dreaming when I saw this I went out to the Microsoft Security
site
and sure enough on the security home page is a link to Microsofts new
patch
release schedule and initiative.
The link is:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/revsbwp.asp
I find it very distressing that
1. A company that is trying to help someone with SUS/MOM etc can hold
a
seminar and not know this
and
2. Microsoft's own people do not know it.
Gotta love it.
Regards,
Jim Kenzig
CEO The Kenzig Group
http://www.kenzig.com
NEW SITE IN THE KENZIG GROUP FOR GAMES!
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