[THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
- From: Matt McKeehan <matt.mckeehan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:40:07 -0500
We are using WYSE throughout our system (about 2700) and we are currently
looking at Neoware. We have Wyse 3350's 3320's 3360's 1200le and 3125's.
The neo eon 3000 is in testing now. A key thing for you to think about is
the software to manage the thin clients. I find in our case that the
management software is the most important piece to look at....
Matt Mckeehan
Citrix LAN Supervisor
Admin Office of The PA Courts
PA Supreme Court
(717)795-2063
(717)514-9446 mobile
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From: Magnus [mailto:magnus@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:30 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Have you thought about Net X thin clients. They make embedded Xp and I hear
they are coming out with an Embedded Linux OS as well
Magnus
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Stage, Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:59 AM
To: Stage, Paul
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Sounds like you basically just went with a Tremont cart for probably half
the price.:) We currently have the Tremont carts and are looking for a type
of tablet device to use for our nurses and Dr's. Sounds like the technology
is there, but not yet really useful in our environment (Hospital). If
anyone know of any other devices that would be useful, let me know.
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
I have been researching these for our facility for almost a year.
www.infocater.com has a lot if info on the different brands. Tablets = fall
into two categories. Those running the Windows tablet pc platform = and have
a hard drive etc. Why this is not classified as a laptop is = beyond me.
the other is a diskless ce or Linux device. There are less of these out =
there and many of the ones out there, like the Viewsonic, are pretty =
delicate.
I have two rugged tablets from Advantech on my desk. They are nice but =
their flash management is a joke.
Wyse and Neoware both have nearly identical tablets available. Both are =
made for them by Airspeak. The flash management is better but these are =
heavier and bigger than most tablets.
Our nurses did not want to carry the larger tablets.
I have found several companies that make mounting solutions for tablets =
and notebooks. This got me around the too big to carry issue (we went = with
the Neoware). It also keeps it safe from drops and spills which = are
inevitable.
For my project, we are mounting tablets to nurses carts for them to use =
for dispensing medications etc.
hope this is the info you are looking for.
Greg
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From: Bill Sorenson [mailto:bsorenson@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:16 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
On a little different note, does anyone know of a good Thin Client that's in
a notebook format? We've got a Citrix desktop client that wants to move
forward with a terminal notebook.
Bill
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From: Chris Hardy [mailto:Chris.Hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:59 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Thanks Mike - I'll take a look=3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Batters
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 21/02/03 10:44
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Chris,
No big story like Glenn I am afraid just a quick recommendation.
Many of our clients use VXL Netica terminals as thin clients. Cheap Linux
based devices, really easy to set up, remote manage etc etc.....
Have a look at www.vxl.net for more info.
Regards,
Mike
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Hardy
Sent: 20 February 2003 22:16
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Great story Glenn - Thanks for that - also very useful info.
In all my research I have found that neoware do make the best thin clients
but the way you are using old P 1/2/3 is great too.
Again thanks
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From: Sullivan, Glenn
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: 20/02/03 23:51
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
In my case, my Terminal Services implementation was designed to extend the
useful life of the existing Pentium 1/2/3 workstations in the company, while
also reducing support costs through centralization.
So I did a bunch of testing, and came up with what I believe is the ideal
"Thin Client" for my company: a stripped down, rebuilt desktop with a custom
shell.
Now, when it comes time to convert someone from a full-blown desktop to a
Terminal Client, I give them a temporary machine that is already set up to
connect, and take their machine.
If it is capable of running windows 2000 (even barely):
*Add a PXE compliant NIC
*Perform a RIS unattended CD-Based install with a custom SIF file *Remove
the PXE NIC (their old NIC works fine, but will not do RIS) *Rename the
machine *Move the created computer account into a "Thin Clients" OU.
*GPO is very restrictive
*AutoLogon with a service account is setup via Startup Script
*RDP Client 5.1 is installed via GPO
*A Custom Explorer Shell Replacement program is install by GPO
*That shell replacement is used at boot instead of Explorer.exe *Startup
script checks for a new version of the shell at boot
*If Found, it is copied locally
*Sets up PendingFileRenameOperations to replace old version at boot
*Reboots
If it cannot run Windows 2000:
*Add a NE2000 compatible NIC
*Boot with a custom boot disk
*Wipes all partitions & reboots
*Creates a single 100% partition & reboots
*formats, connects to the network, and copies Win98SE source files down
*Pauses so you can remove the NE2000 Nic and reboot
*Automatically installs Win98SE at bootup, unattended.
*Log into Win98 with a service account
*logon Script sets up shell replacement, and does similar version checking.
The Custom Shell has the ability to also run applications installed locally
(for example, a Digital Camera utility) and because the machines themselves
are running a full operating system, I can share a printer, install VNC, do
just about anything I want with them...
And, after all that, some people who have had nothing but VT terminals
(don't ask) get Neoware Capio 610's as a replacement. They have worked well
for us.
So that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it,
Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA
David Clark Company Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hardy [mailto:Chris.Hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:27 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Best Thin Client Hardware
Hi All
I would like to ask the list for what people is the best thin client
hardware.
I understand that your first question will be what is it going to be used
for. Well, let me put it back to everyone by saying - Lets go from the very
basic to the most feature rich models.
Any stories (about thin client hardware ofcourse :)) )that come along with
your advise on this matter would also be nice.
Thanks Guys and Gals
Chris
P.S: Come to think of it - any stories would be nice - there isnt enough
story telling on the list :))))
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