[THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
- From: Mark Lee <marklee15@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:02:21 +0000 (GMT)
I did some research some time ago into WBT's before leaving the NHS and came
across a company called Unidec based in the UK (in sunny York). At the time of
my departure I was purchasing SUMO windows based terminals and had been for
approx 12 months, my ex. work colleagues whom I am still in regular contact
with still purchase these devices 3 years down the line and swear by them.
Recently they were compared to Wyse, Compaq, Neoware, VXL etc. etc. by the
trust and they still preferred SUMO purely on the grounds of performance, but
th eprice tag was neat to.
They are compact, relatively cheap but most of all FAST - they are the fastest
'pure' thin client devices available - or at least they were when I used them.
The latest devices run embedded xp and avail in many form factors, it's just a
shame about the name I think.
There website is http://www.sumo-wbt.com
Mark
Greg Reese <GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have been researching these for our facility for almost a year.
www.infocater.com has a lot if info on the different brands. Tablets =
fall into two categories. Those running the Windows tablet pc platform =
and have a hard drive etc. Why this is not classified as a laptop is =
beyond me.
the other is a diskless ce or Linux device. There are less of these out =
there and many of the ones out there, like the Viewsonic, are pretty =
delicate.
I have two rugged tablets from Advantech on my desk. They are nice but =
their flash management is a joke.
Wyse and Neoware both have nearly identical tablets available. Both are =
made for them by Airspeak. The flash management is better but these are =
heavier and bigger than most tablets.
Our nurses did not want to carry the larger tablets.
I have found several companies that make mounting solutions for tablets =
and notebooks. This got me around the too big to carry issue (we went =
with the Neoware). It also keeps it safe from drops and spills which =
are inevitable.
For my project, we are mounting tablets to nurses carts for them to use =
for dispensing medications etc.
hope this is the info you are looking for.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Sorenson [mailto:bsorenson@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:16 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
On a little different note, does anyone know of a good Thin Client
that's in a notebook format? We've got a Citrix desktop client that
wants to move forward with a terminal notebook.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hardy [mailto:Chris.Hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:59 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Thanks Mike - I'll take a look=3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Batters
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 21/02/03 10:44
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Chris,
No big story like Glenn I am afraid just a quick recommendation.
Many of our clients use VXL Netica terminals as thin clients. Cheap
Linux
based devices, really easy to set up, remote manage etc etc.....
Have a look at www.vxl.net for more info.
Regards,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Hardy
Sent: 20 February 2003 22:16
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Great story Glenn - Thanks for that - also very useful info.
In all my research I have found that neoware do make the best thin
clients
but the way you are using old P 1/2/3 is great too.
Again thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Sullivan, Glenn
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: 20/02/03 23:51
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
In my case, my Terminal Services implementation was designed to extend
the
useful life of the existing Pentium 1/2/3 workstations in the company,
while
also reducing support costs through centralization.
So I did a bunch of testing, and came up with what I believe is the
ideal
"Thin Client" for my company: a stripped down, rebuilt desktop with a
custom
shell.
Now, when it comes time to convert someone from a full-blown desktop to
a
Terminal Client, I give them a temporary machine that is already set up
to
connect, and take their machine.
If it is capable of running windows 2000 (even barely):
*Add a PXE compliant NIC
*Perform a RIS unattended CD-Based install with a custom SIF file
*Remove the PXE NIC (their old NIC works fine, but will not do RIS)
*Rename the machine
*Move the created computer account into a "Thin Clients" OU.
*GPO is very restrictive
*AutoLogon with a service account is setup via Startup Script
*RDP Client 5.1 is installed via GPO
*A Custom Explorer Shell Replacement program is install by GPO
*That shell replacement is used at boot instead of Explorer.exe
*Startup script checks for a new version of the shell at boot
*If Found, it is copied locally
*Sets up PendingFileRenameOperations to replace old version at boot
*Reboots
If it cannot run Windows 2000:
*Add a NE2000 compatible NIC
*Boot with a custom boot disk
*Wipes all partitions & reboots
*Creates a single 100% partition & reboots
*formats, connects to the network, and copies Win98SE source files
down
*Pauses so you can remove the NE2000 Nic and reboot
*Automatically installs Win98SE at bootup, unattended.
*Log into Win98 with a service account
*logon Script sets up shell replacement, and does similar version
checking.
The Custom Shell has the ability to also run applications installed
locally
(for example, a Digital Camera utility) and because the machines
themselves
are running a full operating system, I can share a printer, install VNC,
do
just about anything I want with them...
And, after all that, some people who have had nothing but VT terminals
(don't ask) get Neoware Capio 610's as a replacement. They have worked
well
for us.
So that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it,
Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA
David Clark Company Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hardy [mailto:Chris.Hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:27 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Best Thin Client Hardware
Hi All
I would like to ask the list for what people is the best thin client
hardware.
I understand that your first question will be what is it going to be
used
for. Well, let me put it back to everyone by saying - Lets go from the
very
basic to the most feature rich models.
Any stories (about thin client hardware ofcourse :)) )that come along
with
your advise on this matter would also be nice.
Thanks Guys and Gals
Chris
P.S: Come to think of it - any stories would be nice - there isnt enough
story telling on the list :))))
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