[THIN] Re: Article: IBM Offers New Take on Thin-Client Computing
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:47:09 -0700
For the moment, the server randomly shutdown instead of reboot when they are
specifically told to reboot. Using the Management tool or the Power Button
on the blade itself will not start it up again. You have to physically
remove the blade from the chassis and the power it on again.
Joe
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Of Kaftan, John
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:15 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: IBM Offers New Take on Thin-Client Computing
We like our IBM blades. We have lost a few Management Modules, which is
funky and it took us awhile to get 802.1q trunking working with our Cisco
gear. But all in all we like love the remote management options and the
blades have been stable. What issues are you having?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:43 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: IBM Offers New Take on Thin-Client Computing
Now if only IBM made fricken blades that fricken work maybe they'd have
something.
Joe
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Of Jim Kenzig http://kenzig.com
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Subject: [THIN] Article: IBM Offers New Take on Thin-Client Computing
IBM Offers New Take on Thin-Client Computing
http://www.esj.com/news/print.aspx?editorialsId=1538
IBM's new virtual desktop solution emphasizes a centralized, host-based
infrastructure and a lightweight, terminal-esque desktop-and virtualization,
too
by Stephen Swoyer
10/25/2005
With its twin emphases on a centralized, host-based infrastructure and
lightweight desktop processing hardware, IBM Corp.'s new PC blade
infrastructure smacks of technology initiatives past. But there's a very new
wrinkle in IBM's vision that could make it a compelling technology solution:
virtualization. Call it the mainframe-ization of the desktop.
A decade ago, a band of technology CEOs-including Oracle Corp.'s Larry
Ellison, Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Scott McNealy, and former IBM Corp. chief
Louis V. Gerstner-celebrated the emergence of a new host-based client
computing model. Proponents of these new "network computers" tallied up
their advantages over bloated, standalone PCs and confidently predicted the
inevitable, if not rapid, demise of the Wintel duopoly's bread-and-butter
platform.
Wintel is still going strong, of course, and desktop PCs are more bloated
than ever. In spite of the hype, however, network computing does offer
compelling advantages, particularly for task-based or knowledge workers who
don't need multi-gigahertz PC behemoths on their desktops. As a result,
network (or thin client, as it's now called) computing remains a viable
model-albeit one that's more the provenance of terminal purveyors like Wyse
Technology than database and enterprise applications specialists such as
Oracle.
But IBM's new Virtualized Hosted Client Infrastructure isn't just an updated
or renamed thin-client computing solution. For starters, Big Blue is getting
a technology assist from x86 virtualization specialist VMWare and
thin-client computing stalwart Citrix Inc. IBM's plans calls for a healthy
dose of its xSeries and BladeCenter Intel-based servers, VMWare's ESX Server
technology, and Citrix' Presentation Server client-access technology.
In this respect, the Virtualized Hosted Client Infrastructure is quite
different from the thin-client solutions of yesterday-or today, for that
matter. Instead of requiring the use of a single multi-user operating
system-i.e., Windows or Linux-with all of its attendant disadvantages (e.g.,
comparatively poor linear scalability in large SMP configurations, limited
performance and efficiency, and complex administration), IBM's solution taps
a virtual operating system host (VMWare's ESX Server) that can support
dozens of discrete Windows or Linux operating system instances.
While no one would argue that VMWare's flavor of virtualization is as robust
as z/VM, few would deny that it's probably just the ticket for supporting
typical task-based or knowledge workers. More to the point, because ESX
Server lets organizations effectively micromanage their server capacity
(exploiting as much as 80 percent of an xSeries server or BladeCenter
system's CPU compute resources) they can support more Windows or Linux users
on a single piece of hardware than they could using a multi-user approach.
The Mainframe-ization of the Desktop?
The parallels to mainframe capacity management and mainframe client (i.e.,
terminal) access are striking. After all, zSeries operators can maximize
mainframe capacity by micro-partitioning operating system images and
workloads across tens, hundreds, or even thousands of logical partitions
(LPAR). They can easily deploy new images or workloads when the need arises
(and if there's capacity to spare), or re-deploy existing workloads if there
isn't. And while IBM's Virtualized Hosted Client Infrastructure isn't quite
that scalable, it will enable a previously undreamt-of degree of "desktop"
capacity utilization. Best of all, the desktop hardware complement to this
back-end processing horsepower amounts to little more than a high-resolution
display terminal.
For these reasons, IBM says its new Virtualized Hosted Client Infrastructure
has all of the advantages of the thin-client or network-computing models
with few, if any, of the disadvantages. Big Blue's virtual Windows or Linux
operating system instances should be easier to manage, secure, and back up.
Cycle for cycle, they should also be more efficient than competitive PC
blade offerings from ClearCube (PC Blade) and Hewlett-Packard Co.
(Consolidated Client Infrastructure). They support most typical end user
amenities-printing, audio, and USB connectivity-and can also support
multiple monitors.
The question, of course, is whether IBM's virtual thin client will suffer
the same fate-niche-dom-as that of its network computing forebears. "On
paper, the relative values of network-enabled "thin client" desktop
solutions make perfect sense. Such solutions provide all the applications
and power needed for typical knowledge workers but significantly ease and
improve IT performance and security by centralizing systems management,"
notes Charles King, a principal with technology consultancy Pund-IT
Research. "But while this concept offers provable merits, the vast majority
of businesses have chosen to stick with the same old 'employee in every
cubicle and a PC on every desktop' approach."
Nevertheless, King suggests, there are a number of reasons why things might
be different this time around. "[A] confluence of factors could be pressing
the market toward a fundamental change. First and most importantly, with
most companies taking an increasingly pragmatic approach to their IT
investments, the cost-effectiveness of hosted desktop environments is likely
to garner more favorable attention than in the past," he writes, noting that
companies are supporting increasing numbers of remote workers, too.
IBM's virtual desktop offering could be an ideal solution for them. "At the
same time, increasing access to Internet-based high-performance network
solutions makes it much easier for remote workers to stay connected to their
employers," King concludes. "In other words, the IT infrastructure required
to support blade-based desktop solutions is more readily and easily
available than it has ever been."
You can contact Stephen Swoyer about IBM Offers New Take on Thin-Client
Computing at swoyerse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:swoyerse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=IBM%20Offers%20New%20Take%
20on%20Thin-Client%20Computing>
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