This is my 12th year of leading birding tours for the King Ranch. At the start of all my tour I tell the group that everyone is entitled to three 'stick birds' per trip, including the guide. I have been known to call a Javelina a turkey, and a turkey a Javelina. I first learned that philosophy from a guide many years when I was a beginning birder. The guide was Roger Tory Peterson. Didn't bother him at all to make a mistake. It WOULD bother him to not correct a mistake. But I have also been in the field with a few 'guides' who will not even call people's attention to a bird until they are absolutely sure what it is. A few of those are well known 'experts'. Speaking for myself, I don't mind at all when someone questions my ID. That questioning serves two purposes: It allows a correction to be made if the ID was in error, and/or provides an opportunity to discuss the ID process. We all learn from that. Perhaps a diplomatic way to deal with it is to ask, "Why are you calling that a Song Sparrow instead of a Savannah Sparrow?" Bottom line - a good guide should never get offended by someone questioning their ID. If they are, they need to do something else. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 7:29 AM, <MiriamEagl@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, all, > > what's the ethical thing to do when you're on a bird > walk/tour and the leader makes what you KNOW is a wrong call? Just let it > go? > > > > Mary Beth Stowe > McAllen, TX > _www.miriameaglemon.com_ (http://www.miriameaglemon.com/) > > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission > from the List Owner > > > -- Jim Sinclair (TX-ESA) TOS Life Member Kingsville, TX "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner