Firstly, I want to state that I think EBird is a very useful tool for birders of all skill levels. And I agree that the quality of work performed by the reviewers is excellent. I much prefer the data to be accurate rather than timely. However, I quit using EBird for my own sightings because the location options are too rigid, and do not meet my needs. And I do not have the time nor the inclination to maintain two separate databases. In EBird any child location can have only a single parent. Pintail Lakes have Santa Ana NWR as their parent. Santa has Hildago County as its parent. Hildago has Texas as its parent. I have an oak motte on a private ranch. The ranch is the parent. But I also have other oak mottes in other locations. And I have a 'parent' named oak mottes. All of my oak mottes are a child of that single parent, regardless of where the individual oak motte is located. I do a lot of work on the King Ranch. There are four different divisions spread across multiple counties. Although each division has a county as a parent, I also have a parent called 'King Ranch'. The two examples above are fairly simplistic. I have some other relationships that are quite complex. But I actively use those relationships. I may want to look at all of my King Ranch data. Or all of my oak motte data. I may want to compare pond data with stream data. And - I use that complex location data for multiple taxa: Mammals, reptiles, amphibians, fishes, odonates, butterflies, orthopterans, etc. And all of those data are fully integrated. I currently cannot do any of those things with EBird. -- Jim Sinclair (TX-ESA) TOS Life Member Kingsville, TX "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner