I have been posting this often privately and wish to do so to a wider audience just one last time instead of individually...If you want to adhere to the intent of the group which is rather focused (no listing, chase, backyard, feeders stuff etc.)...This is how you sign on. Send a note to listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx in the body of the text type Subscribe TX-Ornithology your first name your last name send follow the prompts This list is not the free spirited forum of Texbirds...It is not about common backyard birds, photos of bluebirds in the box, common bird IDs, chasing a rare bird, photo show and tell, your various trip lists, RFIs for future trips or birding locations or any sort of listing... It is confined more to, status, population issues/changes, distribution, morphology, recent scientific lit. taxonomic issues, nomenclature, ....you know more sciencey kinda stuff... etc. I am not the listowner, but can say those are pretty much the ground rules and there are plenty of crustiers that will jump your bones if you decide to send in darling photos of the robin pups in your ash tree or post what a wonderful trip with 50 species you had to Camp Wood:-) The forum does not want to entertain simple ID queries, your trip lists, general/simple bird IDs and lister/chase queries/info, Big Days, discussions on bird competitions, photography, optics comparisons, cats, Ebird discussions, RFIs for how or where to bird or find a particular species, cemetery access discussions or general complaints etc. etc..... those need to go to the regular Texbird forum where they are better served... Texbirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I think I speak for the entire Tx-Orn group here. OK , This is my last note on accessing Tx-Orn...And as far as Texbirds goes it is likely off topic anyway. Keep this note if interested or ask someone else later about Tx-Orn....Get to the coast in the AM! Seriously this IS my final note on this. :-) Brush Freeman 361-655-7641 Cell http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/ Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner