[texbirds] Re: Subject: Re: Yellow Rail? Panhandle
- From: Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Cameron Carver <c.o.carver@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 17:37:24 -0500
....
I am not a statewide reviewer but after seeing many a fall YARA and 1000's
of Soras...If you distinctly saw white patches in the wing you had a
YERA...,Ain't nothing rail like it can be confused within the US, barring
some tropical accidental species I am less familiar with....But you really
need to get those photos :-)
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Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Cameron Carver <c.o.carver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Fred and Texbirds folk,
>
> There was no "thinking" that we saw white in the wing. The white was
> strong and evident. It was what made me immediately yell out Yellow Rail
> when it flushed. My coworker was unfamiliar with the species, but his first
> comment was about the white in the wings. While I know that juvenile Sora
> can show pale in the wings (as I alluded to in my original post), would the
> pale be that evident?
> We also tried flushing the bird a second time without success. We only
> viewed the bird in flight for ~3 seconds.
>
> And you are correct, my field notes rely almost totally on the general
> feeling I had of the bird as it flushed and the white in the wings. A field
> sketch would have been useless as it would have been from memory. As I
> stated earlier this year, your memory has a tendency to fill in gaps that
> are not the truth. As eBird reviewer for the Panhandle, I must hold a
> standard for all sightings. I have invalidated my sightings before for lack
> of evidence and I will not hesitate to do it again. As this Yellow Rail may
> be a first county record (I haven't had time to check) and is an early
> date, invalidation seems likely unless the statewide reviewers step in and
> decide otherwise.
>
> Thanks to those who have chimed in!
> Cameron Carver
> Lubbock, TX
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 7, 2014, at 10:00, Fred Collins <fcndc@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > I have spent a fair amount of time watching rice harvest for rails. It
> is pretty easy to be mislead by flushing immature Sora Rails. Their rear
> wing white lining can catch the light and reflect very brightly. Also the
> overall color of the bird is so light compared to adult Soras that also
> lets the imagination work wonders. In spite of trying I have never found a
> Yellow Rail during the August harvest cut and by the next cut, usually in
> October Yellow Rails are common enough they are easily differentiated from
> Sora. It's one of those things that if you think you saw wing patches you
> likely didn't because when you actually see them you KNOW you did. In all
> my years of working wet fields and marshes I have only walked up one yellow
> rail away from coastal areas or rice fields. That was in a Brazos County
> lake margin pasture in October. All of the window kills I recall we're also
> October.
> >
> > Of course sketches and field notes would help but as a young fellow once
> wrote " if it wasn't photographed it didn't happen" ;-)
> >
> > Fred Collins
> > At home on the prairie
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