Hi Kevin and Texbirders, I suspect your bird is the pale Red-tailed Hawk that Tim Fennell photographed in the same location (north side of Granger dam) last weekend, and which may have spent last winter there. It is a very pale Red-tail, but not a true Krider's IMO. You might say though that it has "Krider's influence." If I am able to get photos of this interesting bird this winter, I will put some on my Flickr page and post a note and link on Texbirds. Your other birds are almost certainly juvenile Red-tailed Hawks, which are common in the area in winter. A single Harris's Hawk, whether adult or juvenile, would be an exceptional rarity in this area, and four would be unprecedented. Byron Stone, Austin Sent from my iPhoneEdit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner