along with some habitat preferences. Flock size seems to be an indicator to me...The larger, in anticipated habitat, the more likely they are Westerns. I am talking the coastal plain solely here, the two species seem almost equally common at very near, to right on the coast and even on Matagorda Is., in Calhoun, Refugio Co.s in winter. I recall confusing western types, perhaps the "Lillian's well in Kenedy Co. WEMEs almost always appear grayer in flight, at least to me, but I dread calling any meadowlark without hearing it tho.....But there is a really big caveat here....We have the Lilian's subspecies to contend with in Texas. I believe John Arvin spent a good bit of time on meadowlarks and also sometime around 1996-97 there was an very good article in North American Birds primarily directed towards "Lillian's" but involving the EAMEs and WEMEs...It may be archived in SORA. I would imagine you guys down there could easily have "Lillian's" in winter as well as the nominates...But I really don't know....My ears work better than my eyes with these confounding animals. ********************************************************************** Brush Freeman 503-551-5150 Cell http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/ Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:20 AM, <antshrike1@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Here in the Rio Grande Valley it is commonly thought that meadowlarks > occurring in pairs in coastal grasslands are all Eastern while flocks > (sometimes large) occurring in barren fields are all Western. I've heard > this theory espoused by some fairly big-brained birders. While I find the > former supposition to be mostly true, I think the latter is a lot more > complicated. I seem to hear Eastern Meadowlarks singing everywhere and > rarely hear a Western in song. I guess I need to learn the call notes. > Here's a meadowlark from a flock of about 25 in a barren area south of > Mission. I took the photo figuring I had my Hidalgo County Western > Meadowlark for the year. But looking at the field guides, it seems to be > an Eastern Do you agree? > > > http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n610/antshrike/rMealowlarkMissionBikePark1-23-14IMG_7331_zps8c5e0d05.jpg > > > So I guess my point is we (or at least "I") need to to be more careful > about our meadowlark identification. > > > Dan Jones, Weslaco > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at > //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds > > Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission > from the List Owner > > > Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner