[texbirds] Re: Meadowlark ID in the RGV
- From: Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Honeylet Jones <antshrike1@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:00:19 -0600
>
I meant to include the call notes of the two nominates are distinct....I am
not sure about Lillian's and would have to revisit the article...B
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Brush Freeman <brushfreeman@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Dan: I think Meadowlarks in Texas are difficult with silent flocks
> during the winter season. To be frank, I just rely on call notes anymore
> along with some habitat preferences. Flock size seems to be an indicator
> to me...The larger, in anticipated habitat, the more likely they are
> Westerns. I am talking the coastal plain solely here, the two species seem
> almost equally common at very near, to right on the coast and even on
> Matagorda Is., in Calhoun, Refugio Co.s in winter. I recall confusing
> western types, perhaps the "Lillian's well in Kenedy Co. WEMEs almost
> always appear grayer in flight, at least to me, but I dread calling any
> meadowlark without hearing it tho.....But there is a really big caveat
> here....We have the Lilian's subspecies to contend with in Texas. I
> believe John Arvin spent a good bit of time on meadowlarks and also
> sometime around 1996-97 there was an very good article in North American
> Birds primarily directed towards "Lillian's" but involving the EAMEs and
> WEMEs...It may be archived in SORA. I would imagine you guys down there
> could easily have "Lillian's" in winter as well as the nominates...But I
> really don't know....My ears work better than my eyes with these
> confounding animals.
>
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> Brush Freeman
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> Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas
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> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:20 AM, <antshrike1@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Here in the Rio Grande Valley it is commonly thought that meadowlarks
>> occurring in pairs in coastal grasslands are all Eastern while flocks
>> (sometimes large) occurring in barren fields are all Western. I've heard
>> this theory espoused by some fairly big-brained birders. While I find the
>> former supposition to be mostly true, I think the latter is a lot more
>> complicated. I seem to hear Eastern Meadowlarks singing everywhere and
>> rarely hear a Western in song. I guess I need to learn the call notes.
>> Here's a meadowlark from a flock of about 25 in a barren area south of
>> Mission. I took the photo figuring I had my Hidalgo County Western
>> Meadowlark for the year. But looking at the field guides, it seems to be
>> an Eastern Do you agree?
>>
>>
>> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n610/antshrike/rMealowlarkMissionBikePark1-23-14IMG_7331_zps8c5e0d05.jpg
>>
>>
>> So I guess my point is we (or at least "I") need to to be more careful
>> about our meadowlark identification.
>>
>>
>> Dan Jones, Weslaco
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