There are some other good sources of blue jay migration data. Several of the hawk watches also count land bird numbers for each day. Most show up on the birdhawk listserve with archives available. For example, 182 blue jays passed Hawk Ridge at Duluth on September 5. Their comrade red-headed woodpeckers are going by the Hitchcock site in Iowa too. Someone is working to put all the old audubon field notes and successive publications online but they have tremendous coverage of blue jay irruptions. I counted etc for an invasion to the coast at grand island, LA but not to the island in 1965? A few years later there was a bigger one that had a big write up. I was leading a group to Dauphin Island Alabama and when we got to the woods in the early am a flock of several hundred blue jays were flying back and forth along the wooded part of the island calling constantly. They apparently arrived at night and were unwilling to leave. Local jays called back and there was a vast acorn crop but the panicked birds never lit. The people camping said they continued flying all Saturday night and then we watched them on Sunday morning. After we left, the jays started to fall out of the sky dead on the beach and the last survivors fell dead on Monday morning. There are a couple of feature articles or seasonal summaries back in there about the jay movements. And if anyone knows how to search the banding lab records, try searching banded jays recovered in texas but banded up north. There would probably be more birds using LA or AL as the southern terminus. Back in those days, jays were one of the really irruptive birds like purple finches. More may be staying up north like the purple finches and other winter finches as there is more food there at feeders. Urbanization also affects jay numbers; Much of western iowa was a bur oak savannah and the bur oaks were very cyclical over wide areas with acorn production. Many other oaks were planted in towns and farms as bur oaks were "messy". Some like live oaks can have annual acorn crops or are watered and have a crop during drought. The Iowa drought map looks like that of Texas last year and natural food will not be doing well like it did not do well here. But city and town trees are being watered and some have acorns and will hold local jays all of which helps modify old migration/wandering patterns. On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Chuck Sexton <GCWarbler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: That tangent to my other graduate research never got published but perhaps it's time to dust off that data, update it, and see (a) if those trends have continued, and (b) if they might be of any utility for gaging WNV impacts. I'll let you know when/if I can find that old cardboard box with era graduate era data in it. Chuck Sexton -- Joseph C. Kennedy on Buffalo Bayou in West Houston Josephkennedy36@xxxxxxxxx