David et al.: The problem with bird ID by consensus is that not all voters have similar knowledge. Great Black-backed Gull in its first year of life typically sports an all-black bill, or nearly so, with even many second-cycle birds having the bill nearly all black (see pictures 29.6 through 29.13 in the Howell and Dunn 'Gulls' book). Additionally, the Texas City dike bird has replaced all of its juvenal scapulars and wing coverts, something that a first-cycle bird does not accomplish. It has replaced all of its juvenal barred back feathers with adult-patterned -- if not adult-colored -- feathers that lack barring and there are a few scattered dark unpatterned scapulars that are second-cycle feathers. Sincerely, Tony Tony Leukering Largo, FL http://www.flickr.com/photos/tony_leukering/ http://aba.org/photoquiz/ Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner