Thanks to everyone who responded last week to my problem with ctc177 tuner wrap that turned out snowy, thanks to gary mcartney, who provided me with a digital pix of tuner area, and to wayne vanaman for providing tech troubleshooting guide in a pdf file. what had happened was that I had grounded one end of r7119 to ground tab, even after hours of staring at pix next to chassis, I did not see the error, with the ts guide I was able to ascertain that I was missing agc voltage to q7102 and q7101, after doing some quick ohmmeter checks I found that agc line was grounded, once again, thanks to everyone who responded. charles betzler Best Electronics repair1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------ Make your TechAssist database better! Submit Repair Tips here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ ------------------------------------------ To UNSUBSCRIBE your email address, click here: mailto:techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe Or send a BLANK email with unsubscribe in the SUBJECT field to the address above.