[TechAssist] Updated guidelines-ALL Members please read!!
- From: <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:21:41 -0600
It would seem this email needs to be posted again.
EVERYONE PLEASE take the time to read it.
Since attachments and HTML posts will not go to
the list, there are actually only 5 things that must
be followed (see 1-5 below). Not following these
simple guidelines can result in your removal!!
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Hi group. A few revisions have been made to the email
all members receive when they join (to answer some
recent questions), and also the information was added
regarding members posting their items for sale to the list.
This previously was not in the message.
As always, please DO NOT REPLY to this email on list!
If any questions are necessary, please send them to
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx PLEASE READ and SAVE THIS
EMAIL for your future reference and read BEFORE
your next post or reply to a post!
Please remember, your administrators are all UNPAID
volunteers who now or at one time were in your SAME
profession of repairing consumer electronics. We too
have our 'real' jobs. We created this list and maintain
this list for YOUR benefit, so YOU will have a great list
to post your repair problems to and save yourself time,
therefore money. All we ask is you respect the
guidelines. They are NOT there to annoy, but are there
to keep this list professional, and to keep the list of USE
to all of us. So please, take a few minutes to read below,
it is to help all of us.
Thanks.
TechAssist Administration
http://tech-assist.org
techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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PLEASE read ALL of this important information below
and PLEASE SAVE THIS EMAIL! It will HELP YOU.
FAQ's are below as well as information on the
Chat service, message boards and pas*word protected
members only areas!!
Please remember, your administrators are all UNPAID
volunteers who now or at one time were in your SAME
profession of repairing consumer electronics. We too
have our 'real' jobs. We created this list and
maintain this list for YOUR benefit, so YOU will have
a great list to post your repair problems to and save
yourself time, therefore money. All we ask is you
respect the guidelines. They are NOT there to annoy,
but are there to keep this list professional, and to
keep the list of USE to all of us. So please, take
a few minutes to read below, it is to help all of us.
Any member found not abiding by the guidelines will
be placed on moderated status, then subject for
removal if any inappropriate behavior or posts
continue.
PLEASE DO NOT POST TEST EMAILS TO THE LIST,
EMAILS ASKING TO BE REMOVED, or EMAILS
REGARDING PASSWORDS OR LIST OPERATION!!
Please see the info below regarding that. All tech's
are welcome, but note this is an ENGLISH ONLY
email list, based in the USA, so please post in ENGLISH
ONLY! Posting in any other language will result in your
removal! Also note that the vast majority of our members
are in the USA and only service USA products. So,
knowledge on certain overseas ONLY products may be
limited; but, this is changing as our European & Asian
membership grows.
By subscribing to this list, you agree to the
following terms (and terms above):
ALL SUBSCRIBERS PLEASE READ ESPECIALLY
AOL MEMBERS! Not abiding by the guidelines will
result in removal.
THANK YOU for your interest in Tech Assist & welcome.
The goal of Tech Assist is to help fellow technicians
be more productive in their work. Troubleshooting
electronic products can be both time consuming as well
as costly! Someone out there may have an answer to your
repair problem that will save you time. Your posts will
be seen by electronic repair technicians from all over
the world (currently, in every state & several countries
across the globe!) This mailing list is intended to
save us all time and money. Other servers charge a fee
for the same services. This one is FREE! Whether you
need help or you would like to help others, we feel you
will benefit from being a part of the TechAssist community.
Please give us a try! Please be prepared (at this time)
to receive anywhere from 50-150+ posts per day (depending
on the day of the week & traffic) if you choose the option
of single emails.
PLEASE make a note of our few posting guidelines below &
FAQ's, as well as information on how to make this list
work better for you. (AOL MEMBERS especially read!!)
Please see the update at the bottom regarding
modifications implemented to the server to make the list
the SAFEST email list around!
On the 1st & 15th of each month, members can post to the
list any electronic items you may have for sale. This
is allowed ONLY, ONLY on the 1st & 15th of each month.
Any member posting items for sale other than on these
dates will be removed. The exception is, if a member
posts that they need a certain item, feel free to respond
to that post ON LIST letting them know you may have
what they are looking for, and continue any
correspondence on the matter via PRIVATE email and
NOT ON LIST!!
Guidelines: (of which most are just common sense ;-)
1. Please include ALL PREVIOUS TEXT of an email thread
when you reply to a post. A reply without the original
post is useless. This means the original post, and all
replies (if more than one) that have been sent to a
specific post. In short, just click "reply" and BE SURE
ALL OF THE TEXT is in YOUR REPLY that was in the
post you are replying to. This way, ALL members can
read any reply to post and get an immediate history of
all replies up to that point, as well as the original
problem. (See #6 in FAQ's below).
2. OFF TOPIC (OT) POSTS & THANK YOU's: Since this is
now such a high traffic list, we're sorry but can no
longer tolerate off topic posts! We have members leave
almost everyday due to receiving too many emails.
They all complain that there are too many OT posts,
and too many *thank you's* posted to the list. The
administration is ALL FOR humor, and thanking fellow
members for help, so PLEASE continue to do this, but
unfortunately, it CANNOT be done ON list! Please DO
NOT post it to the list. Send the thank you's (i.e.
"thanks, I'll try that", etc.) privately to the
individual's email address and not to the list. If you
have nothing to contribute to a post, please DO NOT
reply to it. By ONLY posting replies that help ALL
members, ONLY posting emails that are ON TOPIC
and not off topic, and NOT deleting the previous emails
on a thread, will keep & insure that all emails posted
to the list will be of use to ALL members, and we can
KEEP ALL of our valued members. To sum it up;
just use your head guys! :) THINK before you "reply",
just simply ask yourself, "will this reply make sense"?
And, "will this reply be of benefit to ALL members"?
Remember, your posts and replies to posts are now
being seen by over 700 members worldwide!!
Don't forget we have a chat list just for these type of
OT posts! (See #8 in FAQ's below).
3. When posting to the list, in subject lines please put
what the problem unit is: TV, VCR, monitor, etc,
along with the model #, CHASSIS & MODULE #, (for
RCA's & Zeniths for example) and a brief few words
on the problem. In the message body, please give as
much information as you can on the problems/symptoms
and what you have checked so far. (If there is no
known chassis or module #, then PLEASE STATE THIS).
This makes it easier for all of us to sort the email out
& save it by subject, and also much easier for members
to get replies to their posts.
Also we have noticed that when some members reply,
for some reason they feel the need to *butcher* the
email or "hide" their text, where one then has to go
on some 'treasure hunt' to find it. Please, after you
click 'reply', just put the new text at the TOP of the
email like most others do, so members can see the
newest, latest reply to a post at the top of a thread
without having to search for it. In addition, please do
not remove the previous header information from the
email thread. This means, when you reply to a post,
please do NOT remove the email address and name
from the email for the member you are replying to.
When this is done, members have no way of knowing
who sent the original post (or the last email in an
ongoing thread) or how to respond to them if a private
email is warranted. It is up to you if you want to
remove the footers. It is not necessary, but it is kind
to those who opt to receive the 'digest' version (FAQ's
below) of list if the footers are deleted in your
replies.
4. Please do not cross-post to multiple lists at the same
time. (See FAQ's #7 below).
5. Please DO NOT post to the list 'unsubscribe', or 'test'
messages, or emails asking questions about the list!
They will do nothing but aggravate members.
Unsubscribing info is below, as well as contact info
if you are experiencing email problems with the list
or have questions about the list.
6. NO ATTACHMENTS allowed. Attachments CANNOT be
posted to this list. They are automatically
stripped by the server. This is to keep our
members safe from viruses & worms. (See #5 in FAQ's
below).
7. NO HTML (RICH TEXT) EMAILS allowed. HTML or
'rich text' format emails CANNOT be posted to
this list. They are automatically converted
to plain text by the server. Again, this is
to keep our members safe from viruses &
worms. In our ongoing efforts for your safety,
everyone can read and reply to posts here with
more confidence than any other list. (See #5 in
FAQ's below).
FAQ's:
1. With our list, "reply" and "reply all" ("reply to group")
have the SAME function.
2. Fully searchable email archives are located at
//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist
All messages posted to this list will be archived there
and they are fully searchable. You can search for any
word, and the results will show even if the word is in
the message body. Good for looking for specific tips
that are not in the subject line of posted messages.
3. Each member can access their accounts VIA your own
"personal web interface". Here members can set the
email list to 'vacation' if ever required, or set the
list to "digest" mode. AFTER you have been subscribed
and you login for the first time, you will be emailed a
code, simply copy & paste it into the appropriate area
on the next page you will see, then you can set your
passwords & access the list's options. This area can be
accessed here:
//www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi
Note that after logging in, you must select OUR list in
the main menu at the left.
4. Other potential members can subscribe to the email list
at this link;
http://orpheuscomputing.com/technicians/list-subscribe.html
Please refer other techs to that link or the TechAssist
homepage at http://www.tech-assist.org Unsubscribing
can be accomplished by sending a BLANK email to
techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in
the SUBJECT field or at your personal web interface
listed in #3.
5. Attachments and HTML posts are not allowed because this
is how viruses and worms are spread, and of course we
want to keep our list safe for all!
6. Regarding including all previous text in your replies:
For "Outlook Express" ("Outlook" should be similar):
go to 'tools', 'options', then click the 'send' tab.
CHECK the box 'include message in reply'. It is set
this way anyway by default.
For AOL one way: First drag your mouse over the ENTIRE
email thread keeping the left mouse button down, and
then hit 'Send Now' and low a behold there is your
message you are replying to. Another way to describe
it: just highlight the text and click reply, the
original comes up with the insert mark flashing
underneath, add you response at this point and click
send.
For those of you that doesn't know what "highlight"
means, simply hold the left mouse button down while
'dragging' the mouse cursor over the previous text.
Another way: go to www.aol.com and read your main in
AOL netmail, just above the send to boxes is a check
box to include original message in response. You just
have to type in your screen name and AOL password at
the AOL netmail log in.
For other email programs; sorry we don't have that
information now, but just ask your ISP if it is their
email program you use, or just simply post it to our
list and someone that uses your email program will
reply.
7. Cross-posting (sending to more than one email repair list
and to an individual at a time) is not allowed because
of the following: When a member of any email list is not
a member of ALL email lists someone cross-posts to, and
they "reply all" to one of these posts, the email will
be not only bounced back to the persons trying to reply
to your post, but also cause bounced error messages at
the email lists. Please send to ONE LIST at a time with
nothing in the CC: OR BCC: field. Send to one, then
simply copy and paste the text into another email, then
send it. Or, simply go to your 'sent email' folder then
re-send it, remove the previous header and put the other
email address in the "To:" field. If you are NOT
sending email to any lists, then of course it is ok and
up to you if you want to CC or BCC to more than one
INDIVIDUAL.
8. Your chat service can be found here;
http://network54.com/Hide/Chat/26306
9. Your personal password protected member message board
forum (this is for MEMBERS ONLY!!!) can be found here:
http://tech-assist.org/secure/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
This would be for those of you who choose not to receive
email from the repair email list, and only want to post
your repair problems at this message board. Password
requests should be sent to: admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
10. Your personal password protected member download area
and UPLOAD area can be found at
http://tech-assist.org/secure/members/ Please upload
any documents you may have to share in this area
and FIRST PLEASE READ the 'readme' text on that
page so you will upload the correct way and in the
appropriate folder. Please notice that at the bottom
of every email posted is where you can submit your
personal fixes. http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/
These tips (MANUALLY added to appropriate areas by
a volunteer) are added to a searchable database for
all members to search.
PLEASE NOTE: Passwords for the members area are not
generated automatically. Your TechAssist administration
are ALL UNPAID VOLUNTEERS and assign the passwords
in the order of date subscribed. At times due to many
people subscribing there becomes a backlog of members
who have to be issued a password, please be patient and
you will receive access to the members area ASAP.
11. NOTE!!!! In order to cut down on certain ridiculous
posts, emails containing certain specific words or
specific phrases will get rejected. This is to help
our members and cut down if not eliminate unwanted
or offensive traffic. If any member posts a LEGIT
post or reply to a post and you happen to have it
rejected or bounced back to you, don't worry, it
WILL GET APPROVED and POSTED to the list.
Just delete the rejected email warning, and ignore
it. Since these type emails must be approved,
please BE PATIENT for the email to appear.
FMI: we loose members for NOT having this
function! Members that leave ALL leave for the
same reason, (at least those that do respond to
the email as to why one left) and it is ALWAYS the
same: "Too much email". You'd be surprised how
many TRY and post ludicrous emails the list
everyday, but thanks to this function, members
NEVER have to see them and put up with that type of
ridiculous traffic! This function cuts down on DOZENS
of unwanted posts everyday! We UNDERSTAND that
having your emails rejected at times can be annoying,
but this function is there for a PURPOSE, and a GOOD
one. Again, just IGNORE those rejection warnings &
delete them. As it states in the rejection: "The post
has been forwarded to the list administrator in case
it is a real post." or in other words: "a legit post".
The posts WILL get posted if it is a legit post, you
need to do nothing other than just be patient. :-)
12. Please remember, your administrators are all UNPAID
volunteers who now or at one time were in your SAME
profession of repairing consumer electronics. We too
have our 'real' jobs. We created this list and maintain
this list for YOUR benefit, so YOU will have a great
list to post your repair problems to and save yourself
time, therefore money. It DOES COST to maintain
the TechAssist website & member benefits. The
administration of course has to pay for this, so we
DEEPLY appreciate any and all donations, no matter
how small.
13. To close; Guidelines are NOT there to annoy, but are
there to keep this list professional, to keep the
list of USE to all of us and to maintain it's standing
as the best electronics repair list around. So please,
follow them, they are to help all of us. Any member
found not abiding by the guidelines will be placed on
moderated status, then subject for removal if any
inappropriate behavior or posts continue.
14. Finally, you're ready to post, send your emails to
techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Thank you for your time, your support, and joining!
TechAssist Administration
http://tech-assist.org
techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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