Regulator works under load (40W bulb), wrong voltage though. 32V under load, was 40V without load, should be 130V. Regulator seems to be working; what causes low regulator output, voltage feedback opto circuit?? IC851 opto?? David Lessard Alexandria, Ontario, Canada mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of al m Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:53 PM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't Turrn ON - Followup Take the flyback out of the circuit and put a light bulb in. See if the regulator works with a load on it. If it does then I would ring the flyback next and take it from there. Al Marquardt ampm@xxxxxxx Al Marquardt Electronic Repair 206 W Main Girardville Pa. 17935 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:43 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't Turrn ON - Followup > This may be my last post on this chassis. This is very frustrating. I've > spent too much time on this problem but I'm curios to know what the > problem is. > > Eric, I replaced C816 and still no go. I've checked just about every > transistor, diode, capacitor and resistor in the SMPS circuit. I'm > stumped! Something is causing the +B 130V not to come up to its > operating voltage. > > These are the voltages I measured: > > Q801 8.0V regulator: > Q801-(B)-6V > Q801-(C)-10V > Q801-(E)-5.4V > > Q802 14.5V regulator: > Q802-(B)-14V > Q802-(C)-14.5V > Q802-(E)-14.6V > > +B - 40V > > IC851 opto-coupler: > 1-13.2V > 2-12.2V > 3-6.1V > 4-2.4V - this should be .1V > > IC852 sense IC: > 1-40V > 2-12V > 3-0V > > As I stated in one of my previous post, +B 130V and Q802 voltage return > to normal when the SMPS control module (HC802) is removed. TV still > doesn't turn on though. > > Perhaps someone looking at these voltages could make better sense of > what is going on with this dog. The voltages around both Q801 & Q802 > > Thanks again, > > David Lessard > Alexandria, Ontario, Canada > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:28 PM > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't Turrn > ON - Followup > > No, its okay Eric, you already sent it to me weeks ago, I just never got > around to taking a closer look at this TV. I'll check back with you > soon, going to replace this cap now. > > David Lessard > Alexandria, Ontario, Canada > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:20 PM > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't Turrn > ON - Followup > > David do you need the schematic Eric > E M Electronics > Deer Lake NL > Canada > tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > eric.manuel@xxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:48 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't Turrn > ON - > Followup > > >> I have replaced cap several time for no power Eric >> E M Electronics >> Deer Lake NL >> Canada >> tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> eric.manuel@xxxxxxxxx >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David" <mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:37 PM >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't > Turrn > ON - >> Followup >> >> >> > Eric, >> > >> > I get no click when I hit the power button, C816 is the filter cap > for >> > 14.5V, I don't see how this can affect the +B 130V. I will check > this >> > cap and let you know if I find anything. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > David Lessard >> > Alexandria, Ontario, Canada >> > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> > tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:52 PM >> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't > Turrn >> > ON - Followup >> > >> > David check this cap it,s close to the vert ic..Eric >> > XE2749 >> > Clicks once goes into >> > shutdown >> > C816(1000uf/25v) >> > E M Electronics >> > Deer Lake NL >> > Canada >> > tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > eric.manuel@xxxxxxxxx >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "David" <mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:04 PM >> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't > Turrn >> > ON - >> > Followup >> > >> > >> > > I can hear the SMPS chirp at plug-in. With the HOT disconnect from > the >> > > FBT +B 130V measures only 40V. Q802-(E) voltage is supposed to be > 72V >> > > but measures only 14V. When I pull HC802 SMPS control module +B > 130V >> > is >> > > present as well as Q802-(E) voltage. I'm not sure but I think > there >> > may >> > > be a problem with the SMPS module. What am I missing here? Any and > all >> > > input is greatly appreciated as I know nothing about this chassis. >> > > >> > > Thanks in advance, >> > > >> > > David Lessard >> > > Alexandria, Ontario, Canada >> > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> > > tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:12 PM >> > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't >> > Turrn >> > > ON >> > > >> > > David check this out it,s located by the vert ic..Eric >> > > TXE2749 Clicks once goes into shutdown C816(1000uf/25v) >> > > E M Electronics >> > > Deer Lake NL >> > > Canada >> > > tvman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > eric.manuel@xxxxxxxxx >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "David" <mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:47 PM >> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Samsung TV - TXE2749 - KCT52A - Doesn't > Turrn ON >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hello Gentlemen, >> > > > I am still under strict orders from the wife to take it easy, as >> > most >> > > of >> > > you know already I recently joined the zipper club. Having said > that, >> > I >> > > need >> > > help please with this TV. The customer said one day it just didn't >> > come >> > > on. >> > > SMPS fires up on plug-in but hitting the power ON button does > nothing. >> > I >> > > need a service manual to figure out the standby/micro circuits > please! >> > > > >> > > > Thanks in advance. >> > > > >> > > > David Lessard >> > > > mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > Alexandria, Ontario, Canada >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > -- >> > > --- >> > > > Lost Password: >> > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >> > > > Email Archives: >> > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > ----- >> > > Lost Password: >> > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >> > > Email Archives: >> > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > -- >> > --- >> > > Lost Password: >> > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >> > > Email Archives: >> > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > ----- >> > Lost Password: >> > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >> > Email Archives: >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> > >> > >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- >> --- >> > Lost Password: >> > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >> > Email Archives: >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > --- >> Lost Password: >> http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". >> Email Archives: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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