It's the yoke. I don't know about the ringer, but sub a yoke on there and watch it deflect. T8 and M8 are bad about their yokes. Perry Bower Electric Medic "It's Cheaper to Keep Her" http://www.electricmedic.com Check out the Electronic Repair Screensaver We created. More Images to come! To download these Collections you must first install the Eyetide Viewer: http://www.eyetide.com/download/?s=O3OfmSLHXygGHCv1W6Gz3Bgjtq3DNNMNdcKsYSVGC "We're Number One Where it Really Counts, With our Customers" 3850 Washington Road Suite 5b Martinez, Georgia 30907 Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) Phone: 706-863-3474 Fax: 706-863-2316 mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "WE REPAIR WITH CARE" -----Original Message----- From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of danny williams Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:58 PM To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Philips 25ps40s121 Ch_25M800 weird vert problem This is a weird looking vert problem. The picture is 2 inches tall and twisted. Already replaced vert i.c. and esr'd caps, checked diodes for shorts. We have now seen this problem in two different manufacturers, Daewoo being the other. Anybody know what gives with these??? Dan W. Wizard Electronics ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/