[TechAssist] Re: Panasonic and Toshiba Bad sound Ch 4
- From: Gary McCartney <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:33:11 -0500
Ed, thanks. Between my customer and I , we decided they would buy a Sony
at Sears and that I would get a consulting fee to help them. Everyone
seems happy now. Very interesting about the 4.5Mhz trap and all that.
Some guys were saying Zenith also has the problem. Do you know if they
use the same tuner also?
Gary
Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
>
> Gary;
> Don't know about their H/D models, but this seems to be a problem of narrow
> bandwidth in the tuner, a particularly the 4.5 mhz trap in the tuner. We are
> replacing them with an older version of the trap, and corrects the problem.
> Only thing is it's costing the company $100 to $120 per set to correct, and
> seems to be a combo problem, cable signal and design of set. Only thing
> Toshiba and Panasonic have in common is the same tuner.
> As far as H/D is concerned, too early in the game to make any judgement, but
> stay with a Brand Name, not hybrids like Citizen, Goldstar, etc.
> I guess probably Sony has the upper hand on the Technology, followed by
> Toshiba.
>
> -Ed-
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Midland, Ontario. Canada.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary McCartney" <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 2:05 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Panasonic and Toshiba Bad sound Ch 4
>
> >
> > Ed, thanks for bringing this up. I don't know of the problem, but I am
> > shopping for a new TV for a shut-in customer of mine. Should I stay away
> > from these two makes here in Guelph?
> > The guy wants a HDTV set. Do you know if the problem exists on Ch 4 on
> > those sets as well, or just their cheap NTSC only models?
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary McCartney
> >
> > McCartney Electronics
> > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
> > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
> > Fax: (519)821-1530
> > email: number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill;
> > > Cable knows what is causing the problem, which happens to be a digital
> pulse
> > > they are injecting between the Ch3 and Ch4 carrier. Since this is only
> > > effecting late model Panasonic's and Toshiba, they have decided not to
> do
> > > anything at this time. In the meantime we are changing the 4.5 mhz
> ceramic
> > > filter with an older version, which has corrected the problem for now,
> but
> > > just wanted to know if any other areas were having problems with this.
> > >
> > > -Ed-
> > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > Midland, Ontario. Canada.
> > >
> > > teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Secondary........
> > > teltek35@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Tel-Tek Electronics.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill S" <billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:15 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Panasonic and Toshiba Bad sound Ch 4
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ed;
> > > > Before you get too wrapped up with all of everything, do yourself a
> favor
> > > > and check how the sets work with another source such as a vcr, or a
> signal
> > > > generator.
> > > > In Duluth, Mn We had a problem similar to this with the Zenith sets
> and
> > > > some models of RCA's (particularly those motel models) on channel 16.
> It
> > > > would not always be like that but sometimes it did. We spent some
> time
> > > > trying to understand why the sets would do this. Zenith at that time
> (six
> > > > years ago) were helpful and wanted to fix it.
> > > > When we contacted the cable company and discussed what was going on,
> We
> > > > found that they had some pretty good ideas of why it was happening.
> For
> > > the
> > > > customers that complained, They added a filter on the 'pole' and the
> > > problem
> > > > was resolved. Apparently there was added signal underlaying the
> regular
> > > > channel 16 signal and the filter removed all of the underlying
> component
> > > of
> > > > that added signal.
> > > > Maybe channel 4 in your area cable system is the official weather
> channel
> > > > that is clearly heard when the 'sap' is turned on.
> > > > Whatever the case may turn out to be. DO take one of the troublesome
> sets
> > > > to the cable company and let them listen and have them help you figure
> out
> > > > what is different with their channel 4. The cable company often times
> > > will
> > > > have the scopes and the ability to look for that spurious signal that
> is
> > > > causing that static.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Sorensen
> > > > New Life Video & Audio
> > > > billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "al.L" <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:59 AM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Panasonic and Toshiba Bad sound Ch 4
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have it on CNN on my Samsung,thought it was a CNN problem. al
> > > > >
> > > > > alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Al Leatherman
> > > > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> > > > > 973-361-5796
> > > > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: "AAAA TECH-ASSIST" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:39 AM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Panasonic and Toshiba Bad sound Ch 4
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone who is on Cable had problems with static sound on
> Channel
> > > 4.
> > > > > This seems to effect newer Panasonic and Toshiba TV's. I'm not sure
> if
> > > > this
> > > > > is a local problem, or has a wider scope to it.
> > > > > > We are now in the process of doing modifications for the Toshiba
> sets,
> > > > to
> > > > > try to resolve this problem. But thought it would be interesting to
> see
> > > if
> > > > > this has affected a wider area.
> > > > > > Thanks for any input.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Ed-
> > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > > > > Midland, Ontario. Canada.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Secondary........
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> > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics.
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> > Gary McCartney
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