Ok,after replacing the la7838,vcc resistor and all caps in the vertical ckt,pix had 4 black lines that appeared like vertical foldover.The problem was a leaky Q4a1 which is a C2236.I used a nte 382 and the pix is great now.Thanks for all of your tips and suggestions. Mando Birdie's TV & Electronics Casa Grande,AZ PS- I had previously checked this transistor with one of my checkers and it checked ok but this morning I used my B&K 510 and this baby found it to be leaky. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Appliance Repair List: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/