Villy, I don't think your survey was very accurate. In the first place,...only a FEW members particapated in this discussion. I for one,...deleted 90 % of the posts, as did many of the other members. I found the discussion kinda irrelevant to Electronic repair. I learned a long time ago, that being a good Electrician, and being a good Electronic technician, are TWO different things intirely. A good basic knowledge of OHMs law, is sufficient for a TV Tech. Around here, you need a license to do house wiring. On the other hand,.....very FEW Electricians are able to even repair their own TVs when they break down. MORE knowledge is required to stay current with TV repair, then staying current with House wiring. I got my basic electronic training in the US Navy. They tought us enough about electriciity, to keep us from getting ourselves killed. In the Navy,...they called an Electrician, a "ONE wire". They called the Avionic techs, a "TWO wire". We all know that High voltage with Low current will only knock you across the room,...while High Voltage with High currant will grab onto you, and kill you. This is important to know, when working on Microwave ovens, but,.. while working on TVs is NOT as dangerous. The most important thing about working around electricity, (if you don't want to be shocked),...is,....don't come to work with a "hangover". I can't remember the last time I got shocked. I think it was back about 1972, when I was trying to remove the 3A3 rectifier tube from inside the high voltage cage of an old Magnavox tube set. It knocked my hand back,...and many times I cut myself on the sharp edges of the cage. I learned, to discharge the area good before trying that,...but,...like I said,...watch that "Hangover", and you will be safe ! However,....I DO agree with you that the requirements for TV repair are much higher, and harder to meet, in your country,...then in the USA. But,...for the most part,....it is most likely, just extra work, and unnecassary education requirements. I built, and wired my own TV shop,...with only a small amount of advice, and supervision from a local Electrician,...who by the way,..I fixed ALL of his TVs many times over the years. There was a another local electrician who was the mayor of our town. He worked for the Power company. He didn't know Jack Shxxt about fixing TVs either. He wanted me to teach him. He was too stupid to learn. So you see,....these are 2 (TWO) seperate professions in this country,....and I'm glad of that,...cause I don't know everything about the propagation of electricity, and I don't want to have to learn anymore then is necassary for me to be a good Electroinc tech. Which my limited knowledge has served me WELL, over the past 31 years in this business. Thanks for you comments. Best Regards, LLW LeRoy Westlund Westlund TV & Electronics " It's such a pretty world 93 North Main today !.... Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 Look at the Sunshine. " Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 :-) mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Vilhelm Boor <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:26 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v I thank you all Merry Xmas > > Villy Boor > Boorelec Durban > I am sorry but I had an ulterior motive for continuing this discussion. I wished to find out what the knowledge base was in the TV repair industry in the USA. Few people seemed to be aware of just how little it takes to kill, a few hundred milli amps flowing across your heart for a few minutes will give you your wings. The voltage is really irrelevant. Ohms law. Knowlege of that was low, marked exceptions yes but on average the knowlege base is limited. The understanding of generation and distrobution was again limited, I think a number would be pushing against the wind to get their papers here. >-- > >On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 05:53:11 > Pete wrote: >> >> >> >>This discussion was of a great interest to us, >>We have learned a lot about the most important part of our lives. >>Without power, we never could have the chance to meet one to each other >>here, Think for a moment, that no to long back, people lived without >>this marble source, and they have to use kerosene to light up their >>houses and the street towns at night. We have send a great message to >>Thomas Alba EDison who put in the world hands such fantastic invention! >> >> Hoppe all of you colleagues say.. ...Thanks Edison.. for let me >>lighted my christmas tree... >> >> ~~Merry Christmas~~~ >> >> >>Pete >> >>Perdomo TV Inc. >>Miami, Fla. >>wpt19@xxxxxxxxx >> >>techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From: jbc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>(Joe=A0Batchelor) Date: Sat, Dec 21, 2002, 11:27pm (EST-1) To: >>techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v: End of >>Discussion Reply=A0to: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>If you have doubts, you can measure the current. Hold one lead of an AC >>current meter in one hand and make a circuit with the other lead. You >>may need someone else to read the meter as you may not live long enough >>to tell us how much more the 220 pulls. >>Joe Batchelor CET TX-80 >> >>------------------------------------------ >>Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: >>http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html >>------------------------------------------ >>To REMOVE your email address, click here: >> http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html >>To CHANGE your email address, click here: >> http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html >> >> > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. >http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus >------------------------------------------ >Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: >http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html >------------------------------------------ >To REMOVE your email address, click here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html >To CHANGE your email address, click here: > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > ------------------------------------------ Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html To CHANGE your email address, click here: http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html