I like to use sliders on chutes larger than 4 foot. Another option I have tried is using a short piece of 3/4 inch nylon tube as a slider. It's cheap and it slows down the deceleration rate. I also like to use deployment bags on larger chutes. Skydivers call the decelleration "opening shock" and it can bust your balls. Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Engelgau" <gene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 9:28:04 AM Subject: [tccrockets] Re: Rock sim Hey Robert, So I'l stating the obvious and the deceleration is why air frames get zippered. The Iris chutes in particular open very fast since they are shallower. I'm working in a slider device to moderate that... more on that later. -G On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM, AiRobert < airobert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: I ran into something interesting while doing some Rocksim work for my L3, a ten inch Thumper. http://stores.whatsuphobby.com/-strse-10/Polecat-Aerospace-10%22-Thumper/Detail.bok http://www.rocketreviews.com/file-4841/mod_polecat_thumper.rkt The max acceleration was showing 900+ f/s/s which is ~30g, yet it wasn’t clearing the rail at a high enough speed for stability (50f/s.) Normally 10g is plenty. So I reran the sim with bigger and smaller motors and watched the details at launch. I couldn’t find any acceleration over 180f/s/s (5g using M1230) It turns out that the acceleration of 900 f/s/s was actually the deceleration when the main chute popped out at 800 feet. Once the drogue chute was resized the numbers started making sense. WOW who woulda thunk… RZ -- - Regards Gene Engelgau KI6IBL, NAR 86770 / TRA 12243 - L3 http://fruitychutes.com - Consumer and Aerospace Recovery Solutions Like us on Facebook! Follow us on Twitter! 408-499-9050