[tcb] [Suspected Spam] Re: Re: Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in a Westy?

  • From: Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:20:01 -0500

Kennedy still makes adapters.

http://www.kennedyeng.com/index.htm

Clarke's makes bay kits and you get the corvair trans.:

http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog.cgi? function=goto&catalog=SPECIALTY&section=OTTO&page=OTTO-44

There a couple guys on the type 2 list that run the conversion.
A friend of mine has 6 corvairs, He says corvair engines and parts are not too hard to find.




On Jul 27, 2006, at 4:17 PM, JKi7886155@xxxxxxx wrote:

I have been reading, with interest, everyone's thoughts about engine size, performance options, etc. My two (2) beetles (one 74 sedan and one 79 Super convertible) both have MoFoCo (Milwaukee) built 1776 cc "Streetwise" motors with mild cams, lightened flywheels and dual Webers. Both engines have hydraulic valve lifters and I couldn't be happier the way they perform around town or on the road. I normally cruise around 70 mph. At that speed, the VDO tachometer in my sedan reads around 4000 rpm.

Back in the late 60's and early 70' s I had a 61 Westy and one time I towed a fairly heavy trailer with two (2) motorcycles from Houston to Oklahoma, to camp with a friend. Uphill, on the freeways the original stock engine had all it could do to top hills at 25 mph. Drivers behind me nearly wore out their horns. After that trip I decided something had to change.

I picked up a Corvair 140 H.P. engine, bought a Crown conversion kit and made the engine swap. Suddenly, I could easily dust my friend's Porche at intersections but, the engine was screaming at 65-70 mph on the highway. I changed the rear end ratio and suddenly I could cruise right along with the new bay windows, in the 65-70 mph range and, it still had plenty of punch. The package proved to be very dependable,. but the steering at 70 mph was so quick it felt like driving a go-kart.

I sold the car to purchase my first house in around '73 but, now I sure wish I had kept it. If you want performance that's sure one way to get it, although 6 cylinder 140 H.P. Corvair engines, much less Crown adapters, are getting rare these days.

Jack

In a message dated 7/27/06 9:57:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I agree that a Bus needs more torque, but horsepower is needed to maintain highway speeds. I have never had any problems with a 1641 running hot. I use the stock offset cooler and super cool tins and maintain 190 to 205 degree's in my 70 vert with the top down blocking the air coming off the top of the car. I'm not a big fan of dual carbs, my opinion is a good 2 barrel progressive is all you need. I had a 1641 in a 65 single cab with reduction boxes with the afore mentioned setup and routinely got 28 to 32 mpg.


Dan Martin <danandkatrinamartin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I think what he is saying is for the minimal gain you get from
increasing from stock to 1641, he thinks it would be better to
install duel carbs and a header. The problem is, increasing
displacement by increasing the bore will add horsepower, what a bus
needs is more torque. To increase the torque of a VW engine the
easiest way is to install a longer stroke crank. The cranks are
expensive. Their use generates more heat. So most people add a oil
cooler/fan and filter. I am afraid by the time I add duel carbs,
header, stroker crank (why add a little stroke?), oil cooler and
plumbing I will not be able stop the big heavy beast and I still will
not be going fast enough to impress the kids in the high rev tuners.
But at least I will get to buy a lot more gas.

On Jul 27, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Trey Jung wrote:

> John Connolly sent me this as I was talking to him about a 1641
> with the single Weber...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Trey
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Connolly, Aircooled.Net"
> <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Trey Jung" <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <type2@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [T2] Anyone out there wth a 1641 engine in a Westy?
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>> http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?
>> keyword2=fsk0060
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>> is a far better choice. The 30mm venturis will give more power and
>> run
>> cooler then the supplied 27mm venturis.
>>
>> Read about a bus install at
>> http://waitresses.servebeer.com:81/vwpage/35pdsit/35pdsit.htm
>>
>> John
>> Aircooled.Net Inc.
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