[tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday

  • From: Will Wood <evilscientistboo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 10:39:25 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

I'm reminded of the theory that when you learn something new, something old has to go.

Now, where's my car keys?



-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Dodson
Sent: May 3, 2008 11:49 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday


Holy Crap! you guys talk on levels that just make me dispair. How the %#^! am I going to keep my stuff on the road when I have to worry about whether my flamerator is a zygote point above 4. What? I am never advancing beyond a '63 split window. Chuck says it's a tractor, and that's OK by me. Murray and I just drove to Andrew's house, about 75 freeway miles away, and he is just the bomb. Everything is working so well together, but I have no idea the angle of the dangle. And if I have to learn, I'm just going to get into stamps. Jan's Dad left us about two refrigerator boxes full and I really should get started. From now on, look for me over at WWW.IGOTTABUTTLOADOFSTAMPS.COM
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Will Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:09 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday


Okay, on the hesitation issue.  How much mechanical advance do you have set for the SVDA.  It shouldn't be more than 30 degrees BTDC.  It could be that it's advancing too far and causing the issue under load, however when you're accelerating the vacuum signal to the SVDA should be low.  You're connected on the left port of the 34 PICT 3 near the idle bypass and mixture screws right?

On the second issue, you relay could be shot or your solenoid could be shot.  You could also have too low of voltage from the battery to trip the relay and the solenoid.



-----Original Message-----
From: Trey Jung
Sent: May 3, 2008 9:25 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday

Guess what.. I went on my little 20  mile "deer run" as I call it and stopped about 1/2 as my Berg dipstick was flicking on at 45 mph.... so I go back to the engine and I notice the air hose coming from the back of the engine to the oil bath nozzle was disconnect.. ( might be a reason it's running hot letting the hot air into the engine compartment) connected it then I notice that the vacuum connection the top left of the pict 34 coming from the diaphragm of the SVDA was not connected, so I connected it... Got in the bus , cranked it up and drove.
 
The hesitation came back just like before I changed the plugs. Stopped the bus went to the back and disconnected that hose coming from the diaphragm on the SVDA, guess what , drove fine (as in not jerking, hesitation ) when shifting from one gear to the next. Drove a ways disconnected and same thing (jerking and missing like at the higher rpm's in the gears)..... Did this switch about 4 times to make sure...... now the fun part! 
 
Stopped the bus to disconnect the hose (final experiment to get back home) got back the bus, turned the key, nothing, no noise, got lights and radio , gauge lights all light up, not even a murmur from the starter  or solenoid. I do have a hard start relay in it and I checked the fuse and it was blown.. no 15 amp fuse in the bus.... bummer
 
out in the middle of no where (close to where I got stuck trying to chase hogs in the other bus)....
 
Finally a guy came by, pushed me off, got home , (forget the cell phone too) apologized to the wife... went out to the bus , stuck a 30 amp fuse in the hard start relay,,,, nada... nothing.. fuse didn't blow either.... no start....
 
2 problems:
 
Why does the bus run like crap with the vacuum connected and run ok with it not connected.,... a bad vacuum can? (not doing it's job? maybe) bad SVDA
 
Electrical (blew the hard start relay somehow or a ground came loose) I do know if the hard start was blown if the started would turn over. Anyone know. Thinking that the hard start blew along with the fuse and power is not getting to the started....
 
I need a beer.....
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:47 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday

Trey:  Spark plugs are critical on the VW engine.  About 9,000-10,000 miles on a set and that's about it.  I change my plugs, points and condenser every 10,000.  If you have a VW engine "cutting out" i.e., missing at higher rpm on acceleration the first suspect should be the plugs.  That's not necessarily always the problem, but is the most probable.

Trey Jung <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sammie,
 
Keeping my fingers crossed. I changed the plugs (NGK) and gapped them to .026. Drove thru the neighborhood and so far so good. No jerking when shifting from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th. trying to talk the wife into going for a ride but looks like we will tomorrow.
 
I owe you a beverage of your choice next time I see you.
 
Thanks,
Trey
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:25 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus engines woes for a Saturday

Sounds to me like the plugs could be cutting out.  That's the first thing I would do; change the spark plugs.

Trey Jung <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Right before you shift from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th, the bus jerks at the end of the rpm spectrum. I don't have a tach in it but at around 25 mph (in 2nd) the bus jerks then I shift to 3rd it's ok until I get ready at 35 to 40 mph shift to 4th, same thing happens, bus jerks , pulsates....
 
 
The other day on the highway it started doing this at 55 mph in 4th.... Freaked me out. I've changed the coil, spark plug wires twice and still same symptoms. Running an SVDA with a compufire it in, could the compufire be going out? I think these things will just fail.
I'm sure everyone is out in their buses today enjoying beautiful weather,
 
I'm trying to get ready for Spicewood.
 
any suggestions please let me know. I did take the pict 34 off a few weeks ago and cleaned it up, blew out all the jets and all that..Plus took the fuel pump and cleaned the screen and installed a new fuel filter.
 
Trey


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