From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:10:49 -0600
To: <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: Brian - Beam questions
my good friend patrick will be building me a 4" narrowed adjustable beam. i am currently about 6" down from stock. the drip rail is at eye level right now, my goal is to make the fiberglass top at eye level. as far as binding, the problems i am currently running into is i have such bad caster (i think that's the word) that my ball joints can't flex anymore so they bind/bottom out when i hit bigger bumps which is extreemly unsafe, especially when going 70mph down i30 in downtown little rock during afternoon rush.
to aleiveiate the situation i could:
A. go with drop spindles for the ball joint trailing arms. the drop bj spindles only lower 2.5" more which means i would never achieve my ultimate goal plus, i am in need of some ball joints so by the time i bought the drop spindles, and ball joints and found a place to press them in i'd have $500 easy spent in it and i would never achieve my goal of getting that top even with my eyes.
B. go with 64-67 king pin spindles. the king pins are 1" lower right off the bat. my drums and bearings and brake hardware will work on them. you can get the spindles flipped which will basically give you about 3" of drop and still be safe. i can turn the beam more for more drop and not have the binding issues of the ball joints because the joint is a swivel type setup instead of an actual hinge type setup. and i found a set of king pins and trailing arms that i could score for trade of my adjustable stock beam.
in the long run i'll have $230 in the beam, and $60 in the spindles to have them flipped. that's $110 that i'll save and i'll be able to achieve my goal.
the binding issues i keep discussing are at the ball joint. the ball joint can only bend so much, then it binds up and basically "bottoms out" to much of that will cause the joint to brake resulting in no more hershey if i'm going at any sort of faster than walking speed.
tires, currently i'm rocking a 185/60r14 it's about 10%ish off. when i'm going 80mph on the speedo, i am pacing semi's
in order to achieve my goal i will probably have to buy some 165/45r15's (i think it's a 45) it'll have about an inch sidewall and will be about 4" shorter than my 185/60r14's.
the only problems i see having in the future are in pulling into and backing out of my driveway...that is currently a problem, but anywhere else it shouldn't be a problem.
i've yet to decide on how much more i want to go down on the rear.
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:48:07 -0800
From: slammedcustom@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tcb] Brian - Beam questions
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
On an unrelated note, now narrow are you going with your beam? It seems you are pretty low already, do you need to be lower? And what binding issues are you having being that low, and what is it caused from? Last question, what tires are you running up front, and how has their smaller size effected your speedo?
--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: We need Paul badly
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 1:05 PM
denis is right, after unbolting my beam the other night my wrench slipped and i whacked my ring finger, my wedding ring pinched the skin so hard that it caused a big blood blister instantaneously. and i yelled "WKKHABG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
seriously, it stands for "We Know Kirk Has A Bus Gang"
and seriously, hershey has no front end and will be getting the narrowed treatment the first part of december...he'll also be getting 67 spindles that shall be flipped for three more inches of drop and i won't have to worry about binding like i do from the ball joint spindles i have.
anyone interested in my ball joint trailing arms and spindles let me know. they should come with backing plates too.
From: coocoo@xxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: We need Paul badly Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:49:18 -0600
It's a sound that Brian makes.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: [tcb] Re: We need Paul badly
Okay, so what does WKKHABG stand for???
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From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
nope it's based on a phone call where kirk said "i don't have one loose" when i asked if he had a bus draglink and based on a samba comment i read today on an older post of kirks where he said "mine" referring to a bay window bus.
not to mention he is on the "Texas Coalition of Busses" which is a members only elite group of fine bus owners ;)
From: mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: We need Paul badly Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:55:45 +0000
Probably some kind of Arkansas thing.
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From: Kirk <slammedcustom@xxxxxxxxx>
I was thinking of asking Brian what the WKKHABG bases their facts on.
--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [tcb] Re: We need Paul badly
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 9:16 AM
i was thinking the same thing this morning
From: coocoo@xxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] We need Paul badly Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:15:24 -0600
Maybe it's just me, and I didn't think Paul posted all that much, but since he's been in the hosptal there is no traffic here at all.
He might go home today. I hope he feels like talking.
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