quote :
Legally speaking, if SmartAV no longer exists as an entity, and they did not
sell the IP to anyone, that is the source code, drawings, etc, then the IP
automatically becomes public domain.
Am 07.01.2021 um 11:42 schrieb James D'Arcy <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
I have the original coders email (Joe) and I will see how he feels about it.
As a professional SW engineer you are never perfectly happy with everything
you've done but I would think that the idea that everyone wants to keep using
the system you developed would be a terrific feeling and hopefully override
any concerns you have about the source code.
Legally speaking, if SmartAV no longer exists as an entity, and they did not
sell the IP to anyone, that is the source code, drawings, etc, then the IP
automatically becomes public domain.
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 21:29, musik-scheune <schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi James,
well - I am not sure that the previous owners of the software want it it be
an open source project.
I wouldn’t want some code I wrote 10-20 yrs ago to be available to the public
;-) ……
But anyway - it’s good to know that you have a connection to the SmartAV
people - might make it easier to get a step further in having a software for
a hardware that’s still working fine.
Btw - I upgraded my T1 to a (somewhat) working version with a new(er)
motherboard but got stuck at the point where the touchscreen is involved. I
wasn’t able to get the hardware information needed to ‚drive‘ the screen at
the correct timings. It works but I can see, that the timings are wrong.
Anyway - this is only a side note on what could be possible ….
Matt
Am 07.01.2021 um 11:27 schrieb José Raposo <jose.raposo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jose.raposo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
Hello all,
Try to read all comments...
It is very important this. Tango it is a fantastic controller and if we had
the chance to go forward will some updates, let’s try it.
I have 3 Tango 2 working now with Pyramix 25th
I am waiting for news
José Raposo
Sound Engineer/Managing Partner
Sound Station, Lda
Tel: +351 217 567 922 <tel:+351%20217%20567%20922>
Tlm: +351 918 067 012 <tel:+351%20918%20067%20012>
Skype: jose.soundstation
www.soundstation.pt <http://www.soundstation.pt/>
No dia 07/01/2021, às 10:18, Chris Palmer <chrispalmer3000@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:chrispalmer3000@xxxxxxxxx>> escreveu:
Hi James,
That is encouraging. I'm excited.
Chris.
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, 10:09 James D'Arcy, <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Following on from Matt's comments ...
Putting the source code into an open source repository such as github or
similar really depends on who owns the code. Given that sharing the code is
legally allowed then that is something I could certainly assist with in
setting up. Open source projects can be a terrific way of getting this
moving.
I am friendly with the original inventor, I might even say good friends
actually, and have met the SmartAV developers quickly on a number of
occasions. I helped Stav write the requirements documents well before
SmartAV got involved. Whilst I'm sure that the system has well and truly
moved on since then (20 years ago!) I do feel I can be of assistance in
setting up an open source project that addresses some of Matt's comments.
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, 9:00 pm James D'Arcy, <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Chris
It's not unmanageable. In fact, it's very common to have multiple
developers working on the same code base simultaneously. The developers
need to follow an agreed set of processes, tools and steps but it's done
quite regularly. In fact, it's really important to enable multiple devs as
otherwise what happens when someone gets hit by a bus?
James
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, 8:56 pm Chris Palmer, <chrispalmer3000@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:chrispalmer3000@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I think it would be unmanageable to have several people all tinkering away
on their own. I believe that there is an enormous amount of code which
would need to be coordinated, catering for both versions of the Tango,
although I do know that a lot of it is common to T1 and T2.
I would certainly be happy to pay for ongoing updates.
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, 09:12 musik-scheune, <schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
… which brings up a couple of questions in my opinion :
- if there are changes / enhancements made to the source code, shouldn’t
they be available to the whole community ? At least on a ‚own risk‘ base ?
- Shouldn’t the source code be available to everyone who thinks he/she can
use it for enhancements of their own Tango installation ?
- Wouldn’t it be great if we could do something like a ‚community project'
where programmers are willing to work on a certain part part to fix
problems or get the software to support current DAW functionalities ?
I don’t think this is a easy task and sure time consuming but might be of
value to a lot of us remaining Tango users.
Since I haven’t had the chance to look a the code, I cannot tell (for
myself) if it would be do-able.
AFAIR there once was a discussion about hiring a programmer to make the
Tango software up-to-date product that everyone having a Tango can use.
Maybe not for free, but we all like our Tangos and would like them to be a
tool for us as well in the future.
I know of other communities where a couple if the members are developing
soft- and hardware and make them available to everyone.
What do you guys think ?
Matt
Am 07.01.2021 um 09:11 schrieb James D'Arcy <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
Thank you Chris. I will do so.
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, 6:58 pm Chris Palmer, <chrispalmer3000@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:chrispalmer3000@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi James,
Jan can be contacted at janmorgenstern.com <http://janmorgenstern.com/>.
I know he did some work on the source code for his Tango-2 which also
worked on my Tango-1.
chrispalmer3000@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrispalmer3000@xxxxxxxxx>.
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, 00:37 James D'Arcy, <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi All
I have recently had a Tango fall in my lap and I'd like to have a look at
the source code if at all possible. I can see a few threads that mention
the code is being managed by Jan Morgenstern. Would it be possible for
someone to connect me with him please?
I have over 25 years experience as a c++ programmer working in distributed
environments and I am wondering if I can be of assistance with the
maintenance of the system.
James