Hi Niel. Well, that sounds promising. I guess patients is the name of the game here. As my contract doesn't end until next year it might have happened by then. Walter. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 09 June 2010 15:29 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software Walter, At this time Talks will not work with Geo, as Geo is a Windows Smart phone product, and here in the UK we do not have access to Windows versions of Talks. There is though the plan to release Talks for Windows Smart phones at some point, so in theory then you'd be able to have Geo and Talks. But not right now. Twitter: @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather TalkNav Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility dealer, with online activation codes sent directly to your inbox minutes after ordering, why not use TalkNav today? www.talknav.com sales@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: 09 June 2010 12:52 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software Hi Neil. Thanks much for the information, it is helpful. My contract with Vodafone runs out in a years time and I just called them and they do do Windows phones and they will install Mobile Speak but at this point in time they don't have any non touch screen phones in stock. That might change in a years time (somehow I don't think so though). I would have no objection to paying the price for GEO but my problem is getting the right phone. Can you confirm that GEO doesn't work with Talks? Walter. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 09 June 2010 11:56 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software Walter, I have used it quite extensively, it is superior to Access in the context that it behaves much like Sendero's GPS products do. So information is delivered more sinsinctly, appropriately and with relevance. The product is very much a muchness with other GPS apps for the blind, but it is certainly more comprehensive than Access, and more up to date than Trekker ever was. If I had a Windows Smart phone it would be an excellent choice. The only thing I have to say against it is the price, but when you consider the costs involved in making a product as good as it, with sustainability, unlike Access, then it begins to make more sense. HTH Twitter: @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather TalkNav Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility dealer, with online activation codes sent directly to your inbox minutes after ordering, why not use TalkNav today? www.talknav.com sales@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 09 June 2010 08:54 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software Hi Walter It apparently only works on the Windows Smartphone platform with Mobile Speak, and I have never seen it before so am unable to give you any insight. Kind Regards, J Jackie Cairns jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: 08 June 2010 21:29 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software Hi. Is Geo accessible with Talks or only Mobile Speak? Also, how sophisticated is it compared to something like Trekker Pro or Wayfinder? Has anyone on this list used it seriously? Walter -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: 07 June 2010 08:55 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software There is Geo, and I would suspect that someone, perhaps not immediately, but within a year or so will come out with another phone based solution. Twitter: @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather TalkNav Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility dealer, with online activation codes sent directly to your inbox minutes after ordering, why not use TalkNav today? www.talknav.com sales@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 06 June 2010 12:46 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software Well with the demise of wfa and also trekker pro what does that leave us now with? Especially when you're now having to rely yet again on note taking devices and how many people are going to want to carry one around again? -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software From: "bjcolt" <bjcolt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 06:06:2010 12.42 pm Hi Martin, I am a member of the Loadstone list and although that product is free it has achieved quite a lot in recent months. I am not a programmer but surely with the technology and expertise out there someone could adapt either google or Nokia maps to work with talks. I am not certain but a friend of mine told me he uses Nokia maps with mobile speak. Maybe someone can either correct or concur with that statement. I have tried Loadstone myself some time ago but haven't tried it recently. If that program can be created through the hard work and dedication of volunteers surely someone somewhere could get talks to work with these maps. That's what logic tells me but I accept it is much more complex than that. Sorry to say but at the moment the almighty dollar seems to come before customer care or needs especially when it comes to disability. Kindest Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Murdoch To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Thoughts on GPS software Over the last few days I have noticed lots of talk about GPS apps for the phones we use, it seems to me that most of what we require is available in such things as Nokia's maps it's just the access side that is thin (stating the obvious here - sorry) so with this in mind would not a way forward be to make formal approach to Nokia stating how many Talks users there are ant stating the changes/additions required to the existing maps app to make it useful. Nokia might consider it worth while developing the accessibility side of things if for no other reason than good PR and customer relations. Thoughts anybody? The main thing here is we do not want to reinvent the wheel - there are loads of products just so close to what we want. 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