Steve, If you mean Look Around, from Sendero for the iPhone, its almost done, should be out shortly. I agree a market for Symbian GPS will exist, what we can do about that no idea. And as for Windows Mobile 7 Phones, or whatever they are calling it, I believe that CF will fix those issues sooner rather than later. Twitter: @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather TalkNav Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility dealer, with online activation codes sent directly to your inbox minutes after ordering, why not use TalkNav today? www.talknav.com sales@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 09 June 2010 08:54 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software Hi Neil, I would suspect that Geo has a pretty short shelf life as well, since Microsoft Phone 7 will be released soon, and has no accessibility currently. We badly need a working Symbian version. There are a couple for the iPhone too which are not bad, but look around is what we need. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Monday 7 June 2010 08:55 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software There is Geo, and I would suspect that someone, perhaps not immediately, but within a year or so will come out with another phone based solution. Twitter: @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather TalkNav Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance Accessibility dealer, with online activation codes sent directly to your inbox minutes after ordering, why not use TalkNav today? www.talknav.com sales@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 06 June 2010 12:46 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software Well with the demise of wfa and also trekker pro what does that leave us now with? Especially when you're now having to rely yet again on note taking devices and how many people are going to want to carry one around again? -original message- Subject: [talks-uk] Re: Thoughts on GPS software From: "bjcolt" <bjcolt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 06:06:2010 12.42 pm Hi Martin, I am a member of the Loadstone list and although that product is free it has achieved quite a lot in recent months. I am not a programmer but surely with the technology and expertise out there someone could adapt either google or Nokia maps to work with talks. I am not certain but a friend of mine told me he uses Nokia maps with mobile speak. Maybe someone can either correct or concur with that statement. I have tried Loadstone myself some time ago but haven't tried it recently. If that program can be created through the hard work and dedication of volunteers surely someone somewhere could get talks to work with these maps. That's what logic tells me but I accept it is much more complex than that. Sorry to say but at the moment the almighty dollar seems to come before customer care or needs especially when it comes to disability. Kindest Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Murdoch To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Thoughts on GPS software Over the last few days I have noticed lots of talk about GPS apps for the phones we use, it seems to me that most of what we require is available in such things as Nokia's maps it's just the access side that is thin (stating the obvious here - sorry) so with this in mind would not a way forward be to make formal approach to Nokia stating how many Talks users there are ant stating the changes/additions required to the existing maps app to make it useful. Nokia might consider it worth while developing the accessibility side of things if for no other reason than good PR and customer relations. Thoughts anybody? The main thing here is we do not want to reinvent the wheel - there are loads of products just so close to what we want. Regards Martin Murdoch www.martinmurdoch.me.uk